Womans Sentence Doubled for being Gang Raped

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I'm all for people coming here and living by our rules so its fair to say you go to another country and you live by their rules.
It may seem barbaric but the victim knew the laws of her country and would have known the punishment she could have received.
The men obviously knew she was in the wrong place at the wrong time and took advantage hoping nothing would be said.
Back in the late 70's I had friends from Nantwich who opened up a nightclub in Saudi and were doing very well.
The 20 year old daughter was in a lift one day with two Arabs and she forgot her place.
She lifted up her head, smiled and said hello. The next thing she was being whisked off to jail, the Government stepped in before punishment and they came back penniless.
It may be stupid but its their laws.
 
RDM said:
I am guessing that the issue is that it is an unjust and inhumane way to treat a rape victim regardless of laws.
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I 100% agree with you, really I do.

But I can imagine that in their eyes, they'll probably turn around and say that this is why the segregation law is in place.

Seriously, I don't agree with it, but I can understand why it's been done.
 
~J~ said:
I'm trying to understand what the issue is?

She received a punishment for breaking a law in her country. Yeah it's extreme, but the law is the law. It's a strict country with strict religious beliefs.

I know I sound a bit heartless, but, it's their law whether it's humane or not.
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Are you for real, she was gang raped and punished for it!!!!
 
RDM said:
They aren't all savages but the justice system here could certainly do with a bit of civilising, or do you think it is OK to whip someone for the horrendous crime of being in a car with someone?
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As ~J~ said, their law is their law. You can't judge a Middle Eastern law through Western spectacles.
 
Lysander said:
Yes she was raped, but she also broke the law herself. Pretty clear-cut, I'd say.

If a woman got raped over here having just committed a burglary would you let her off the burglary?
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I agree it is perfectly within their laws, I just think that their laws are rubbish and somewhat savage.
 
Slightly OT but to be honest I reckon if the justice system here handed out a few lashes to women who were the victim of suspicious 'rapes' there would be a lot less of them in the first place as they would be far more careful. I.e. not going out and getting so drunk they can't remember the night before whilst wearing revealing clothes etc etc etc

Lots of angles to the idea, but the bottom line is in this country it's always the attacker and the victim which is so basic.
 
~J~ said:
I'm trying to understand what the issue is?

She received a punishment for breaking a law in her country. Yeah it's extreme, but the law is the law. It's a strict country with strict religious beliefs.

I know I sound a bit heartless, but, it's their law whether it's humane or not.
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I pretty much agree with this post, I don't particularly agree with their laws where a victim can be punished mind you, but then I'm from a completly different culture so don't fully understand it.
 
Slinwagh said:
Do we expect anything less from a nation that is so entrenced in a book of fiction and is still trying to find its way out of the stone age.

Ah the Muslim faith, we should embrace it with open arms.
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lol, yup, their book is fiction, the bible however, all completely true and completely not responsible for starting wars and crimes for millenia.


now guys that did it, 14 of them :o were all up for the death penalty, so its not as cut and dry as rape isn't a big deal because they hate women. their law is crap, being out with a man she's not related to is a crime, as such she got punishment which is ridiculous by any standard. just as drowning witches because ye good book said to was mind you. forget how many were caught, 7 i think it said. were going to get 10 years, but was doubled? which is considered a light sentence for rape over there.

now on that aspect, they got things completely correct.
 
Lysander said:
As ~J~ said, their law is their law. You can't judge a Middle Eastern law through Western spectacles.
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Actually I can and I am. One of the benefits of living in this country, I can criticise things I don't like. Yes it may be perfectly acceptable to them to whip a woman for being in another mans car. However I don't regardless of their culture or laws. Can I do anything about it? No.
 
PaulStat said:
I pretty much agree with this post, I don't particularly agree with their laws where a victim can be punished mind you, but then I'm from a completly different culture so don't fully understand it.
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she wasn't punished for being raped, its not punishing the victim, as someone said, its akin to here, if she got raped after she robbed a house, she'd get done for robbing the house, though at least our jury's would let her off.

though she went from 90 lashes and no jail, to 200 lashes and 6 months of jail, why she would appeal when the system is as it is over there when a worsening of her sentence was so possible is another matter. though accepting 90 lashes would be hard to do if you thought you might get away with none.

they got mad because she apparently said something to the press to influence the judges, dunno if thats bull, or if she really did try to manipulate the court. the lawyer was removed from court and isn't allowed to practice or something now after appealing. all stupid.
 
"aren't they all savages in the Middle East"
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thats how they look to me and the vast majority of people in the west :)

where are all these amnesty international buggers that keep protesting that its demaning for the wee scrotes over here to slop out, send them to saudi :)
 
I think the real problem in comprehending this is how a woman can get raped and get 6 months and 200 lashes for sitting in another man's car, where her attackers get between 1 and 5 years in prison.

The time doesn't fit the punishment here at all, but you've got remember this a culture where women are 2nd class citizens and male rule is asserted.

You can't apply European logic, it just doesn't work - agreed it's completely wrong and a human being's rights have been totally violated but the consensus over there is that she shouldn't have put herself into that position in the first place.
 
randal24 said:
The time doesn't fit the punishment here at all, but you've got remember this a culture where women are 2nd class citizens and male rule is asserted.
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Second class!! They would love to be second class, as it stands they are looked upon closer to cattle, even then Im guessing cattle have more value.
 
Actually, it was doubled because they found her guilty of trying to use the media to twist her story. The attackers' sentences were also doubled.
 
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