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Crysis - DX9 vs DX10

Hollywood said:
I'm sorry you cannot afford a good system, or play Crysis on maximum settings, but that's no excuse to be yet another ignorant troll.
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Ahh........ irony is such a sweet thing.

Not sure why you are taking it all so personaly mate.... all i'm trying to do is point out the holes in your argument to enable us to have a reasonable debate, instead i get labled a Microsoft hater, ignorant, and a conspiracy theorist...... Oh, and a Troll (first time for everything i guess).

As far as the Vista to XP evolution goes, what is the problem with me expecting to see an improvement before i pay a company money for a new version of software? Isnt that how a consumer driven economy works? Should i have to know the nuts and bolts of DX10 in extreme detail to see the benefits?

Thing is, Microsoft arent marketing Vista to the technical expert that knows and understands the kernel details and the improvements that went into DX10 (and there must be some or MS wouldnt have spent time and money on it). They are marketing it to enthusiasts like me, and to the common joes that use computers for surfing, dling pron, ect ect.

For those joes Vista's added level of protection will help as it means they cant do stupid stuff as easily and FUBAR their comp. They dont care so much about gaming performance and neat effects, even in the games they do play, as long as the games are somewhat playable. I do care about gaming performance, and when the neat effects dont seem so neat after the hype wears down people like me wonder why they should fork out a considerable sum of money that we couldnt put into a new GFX card or whatever. If that makes me a poor ass who "cant afford" to upgrade, then that's thats but excuse me for expecting some benefit for my hard earned money.

I sincerely hope that around the corner might come a game that can wow us with DX10 effects, some of the tech demos look mighty tasty but things seem to get watered down for the games..... maybe that means we dont have the hardware to utilise DX10 to its best, so i'll wait untill that day till i embrace it with open arms.

Between now and then, there are some sweet games out that have amazing effects "even" with DX9 (WIC, Crysis, Bioshock, UT3, and many more), frag ya later.
 
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Are you saying they deliberately made a game run slow on current top end hardware just to increase sales for nvidia and intel ?
 
simonnance said:
Yeah, what ever happened to optimising it for multi core....

As far as i can see, it doesnt max out most CPUs, so whats the point in having the extra horsepower if it doesnt make any reasonable difference. I'd love to see a 1/2/4 core comparison, with overclocking, and using the same GFX card (8800GT would be good, or 3870, midrange price range)
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I have an opteron 180 (4800x2) and the cpu benchmark in the demo ran around 60-70% on both cores
 
Everyone seems to be forgetting that there is actually a great game to be played here, who cares if you get 3 fps more in DX9 or that Vista setting don't look any different.

Just play and enjoy folks:D
 
Here Here Mancubus! Everyone seems sooo hung up on the DX9V10 debate that they can't enjoy the game. I think that if it looks similar in both versions, play the version that runs best, simpple as!

Personally, i may hang on before buying Crysis until the new top end cards come out next year and can play the game the *** the developers meant it to look. Anyway, i still have Stalker th finnish, Bioshock to play, Evo08, Forza to finish, then there's UT3 coming, plenty there to keep me going til the new cards!! :D
 
That's odd, I've got a 320 8800gts too and I'm playing in dx10 (am I the only one who actually finds it faster/smoother?), everything high bar post processing and textures with a minimum of 23 fps (which is borderline for smoothness but thankfully it doesn't drop that often). I'm on 32-bit though (however I did get better demo performance running 64-bit).
 
Robbie G said:
Do XP users really want to have to "hack" every game that comes out just to make it look as good as it does on Vista??!
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Most probably. Microsoft want us to move over, by making dx10 look better. While us XP fans wont go down without a fight. So we shall hack every game to vista levels and play it faster. :D:D
 
Guys I'm running Vista 64bit & it's smooth at 1920x1200 res and High settings but run it in DX9 (DX10 too choppy). Specs;

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4x1GB Geil LL mem
8800GT@700/2000/1750 (although stock is still smooth tbh)

Def try the DX9 mode, it'll prolly let you run it in Medium :)

(Low is horrid lol)
 
ive tried the game in both vista and xp on v.high and found that i get better frame rates in xp and there is very little difference in effects and no difference in gameplay.


maybe i need to wear special glasses to see these effects...maybe hollywood can let us use her glasses so we see things her way.
 
Robbie G said:
Do XP users really want to have to "hack" every game that comes out just to make it look as good as it does on Vista??!
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not really....we would like the same effects in xp as vista without any hacks. especially as vista runs like a 3 legged dog as soon as dx10 comes into play.

whats the point of using dx10 to add a touch of lighting in something like company of heroes when there is a 100% performance hit ? why not just use xp which would see little difference ?

i really feel sorry for the guys who bought vista(no offense intended) ...you have spent lots of money on the os which has been nothing but a pretty cover on a book.

im sure you all know the saying never judge a book by its ....
 
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memory said:
i really feel sorry for the guys who bought vista(no offense intended) ...you have spent lots of money on the os which has been nothing but a pretty cover on a book.

im sure you all know the saying never judge a book by its ....
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Im guessing by that post youve never ran vista on your home machine for any length of time ?
 
The game does use quad core nicely. Just load up a heavy map like Assault and see how well it splits the load.

It is unfortunate that DX10 is not quite as smooth as DX9, but just run it in DX9 then. Not like anyone is going to run the game well on the DX10 Very high settings.

I think a lot of people would be happier if they could simply enable some AA. I wish I could, even if it was only 2X AA, but can't so I just accept it.

At the end of the day, it is a great game. and considering how much is going on, and how much is being rendered, it does run quite well.
 
Hollywood said:
The bottom line is, if you want the full experience, then you need Vista/Dx10, if not, then keep your mouth shut.

There's no point in perpetuating vile and inane hogwash.
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I'm going to keep you in a shoebox and name you "Sunshine".
 
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