Calling in the Jury on DX10....

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I've been around since the days before there was any directx, and I've played many a game on every incarnation of DX there ever was.

DX10 has been around for a year, and here's what I've seen for the most part.

huge performance dip + minimal impact on image

So what's gone wrong? Is this the way it's going to stay?

[Edit]For the sake of balance I should also ask what's going right? What are the pros? :)
 
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didnt realise its been a year, but not to forget, there is still a lot of improvemtn hardware wise to keep up with it tbh...

not software

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Yeah, I think the hardware needs to play catch up, perhaps another 2 gens and dx10 will begin to be the norm and run well on the cards.
 
bfar said:
I've been around since the days before there was any directx, and I've played many a game on every incarnation of DX there ever was.

DX10 has been around for a year, and here's what I've seen for the most part.

huge performance dip + minimal impact on image

So what's gone wrong? Is this the way it's going to stay?
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I think you are talking a bit of tosh there. Huge performance dip? Where? With what game? Have you seen the water in Bioshock? The extras in Crysis that not even the hacked high details in XP can obtain?
 
Crysis would have been one of the first games to tempt me into putting Vista back on.........till I found out you could enable all the "exclusive" DX10 features in XP! What a joke
 
JBod said:
I think you are talking a bit of tosh there. Huge performance dip? Where? With what game? Have you seen the water in Bioshock? The extras in Crysis that not even the hacked high details in XP can obtain?
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It has got a huge performance dip - in one thread posted earlier today (cant remember which though) there were benchies between dx9 and dx10 and the performance difference was tremendous.
I'd love to see dx10 actaully be an improvement having got vista and a dx10 card, but i have to admit i feel cheated at the moment :(
 
It makes me laugh, as the entire point of DX10 really was to have all the eye candy but be more efficient. turns out its doing more or less the opposite.

- Pea0n
 
ive yet to have a problem running vista and dx10 options in any games, although as a rule ill always run a defrag before installing most software

@thecremeegg : are you referring to the Hellgate:London dx9/Dx10 comparison ? if so i run it in dx10 (8800GTX 768) with no diff in fps to the dx9
 
Im saying this as a Vista user with a 8800GTX - DX10 is a F ing JOKE!!!!

Bioshock - oh how lucky we get slightly better water textures!
Crysis - Fantasic XP users get all the same graphics as us and better FPS
Anything else DX10 - Thats about it game wise for DX10. Waste of bloody money

Flop of 2007 - DX10 Gaming
 
Its ardly guna take off like a rocket, it completely re-written, and is running on a brand new OS(XP was built ontop of 2000,98se,95) etc etc
Either way we needed DX10, because from here we'll go forward, it may just take a while.
Drivers are slowly improving too!
 
JBod said:
I think you are talking a bit of tosh there. Huge performance dip? Where? With what game? Have you seen the water in Bioshock? The extras in Crysis that not even the hacked high details in XP can obtain?
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Gears of War, Hellgate, Call of Juarez, World in Conflict. Sorry JBod, but my eyes don't lie. I'm not looking for a flame war dude, just your opinion, which is more than worthy.

Sure, there are lots of new features, but to be fair, they ain't alll that apparent. Even in Bioshock, you have to look pretty closely at that water to really see it. Than there's the broken AA in certain titles..

DX8->DX9 was a big leap from a visual point of view. Seems to me we're not seeing it with DX10 so far.
 
peetee said:
Its ardly guna take off like a rocket, it completely re-written, and is running on a brand new OS(XP was built ontop of 2000,98se,95) etc etc
Either way we needed DX10, because from here we'll go forward, it may just take a while.
Drivers are slowly improving too!
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Thats a fair point there, but you could still argue if we really needed it. It's makes titles hardr to develop atm, and makes upgrading hardware a bit of a hassle.
 
Vista RTM'd on the 8th November 2006 instead of 25th October 2006 (Ive had my copy since then from MS (hardcopy if I choose to pay for Postage or from MDSN), it went to all Manu's to get PC's ready (DELL ETC), Joe Public could buy it it from sometime in January 2007 AFAIR.
 
Think it all helps, its not been a very succesful move but its just part of the bigger picture really. Doesnt really make upgrading a hassle, its no requirement is it.
Will just take time for drivers to develop and hardware to be fully optimised etc.
Not like you have to buy dx10 is it=)
 
eekfek said:
ive yet to have a problem running vista and dx10 options in any games, although as a rule ill always run a defrag before installing most software

@thecremeegg : are you referring to the Hellgate:London dx9/Dx10 comparison ? if so i run it in dx10 (8800GTX 768) with no diff in fps to the dx9
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Not sure, it was in the graphics card section though. overall i had large performance dips in dx10 so im using XP again at the moment
 
DX10 has to be one of the most insignificant stepups of a Direct X iteration in years. So far it just does the complete opposite of what all the developers have been saying; runs the same features as DX9 at far worse framerates.
 
peetee said:
Think it all helps, its not been a very succesful move but its just part of the bigger picture really. Doesnt really make upgrading a hassle, its no requirement is it.
Will just take time for drivers to develop and hardware to be fully optimised etc.
Not like you have to buy dx10 is it=)
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you have to buy Vista to use it!
 
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