HMRC loses 15m peoples bank details.

Anyone see Watchdog last night?

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Could it be a coincidence that nobody from the government was available to comment just a day before this new story broke? :rolleyes:
 
Samtheman1k said:
Yes, but mortgages are secured on the value of the houses...if the houses devalue, such as would happen if the housing market crashes, then so does the assets & the loan value...
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If house prices fall then the mortgage is still the same, therefore the BoE's asset remains the same. The only problem is when repossessions go up as well - in which case the BoE owns a load of houses lol. In reality, if the BoE did get control of NR's mortgage book it would probably sell it on quickly, rather than go around repossessing people's houses.
 
The worst thing is the data was probably being physicaly transported instead of transmitted electronicaly to keep it secure.

You gotta love what happens when ludites are put in charge of things.
 
Its another joke to add to the list of many :(

How many times have we seen in the past where a Minister or an assistant has left their briefcase in a taxi, or a bar, or on public transport. :rolleyes:
 
mysticsniper said:
How many times have we seen in the past where a Minister or an assistant has left their briefcase in a taxi, or a bar, or on public transport. :rolleyes:
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Well to be fair, I've done it. What makes a minister any different? sure they *should* be more vigilant but human errors happen? or are you pefect? :eek:
 
Are you guys serious? You're actually attempting to justify this mistake and masquerade it as a "human error?" The question is not why was the disc lost, the question should be what the **** was that kind of information doing on a compact disc in the back of a courier van?

Would it be acceptable for a Government agency to courier a disc with the national ID register on it? Of course it wouldn't. This kind of intensely private information should be stored on extra secure, backed up IT systems, not on compact discs. It's just another example of Gordon Clown's Government acting in a criminally irresponsible way.
 
Mulder said:
Are you guys serious? You're actually attempting to justify this mistake and masquerade it as a "human error?"
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No, he was referring to other cases of human error (things being lost).


Obviously this is not human error as such as it should never have happened
 
Great. So when I get screwed from identity theft because of this incompetence - or if anyone else does - touch wood it will never happen, who is liable for the potential damage that will ensue?
 
Would it be too much to ask of them to have encrypted the data at least ?

Even if this was some muppet civil servant with little or no IT knowledge, surely he would have some common sense & ask himself or his manager why virtually the entire UK's bank details aren't secured in some way before being stuck on a cd and sent by normal post. I really can't believe that no one would question the action that has caused this latest (and possible one of the biggest world wide) govenment data protection catastrophie.

When I read stories like this, I then realise why so many people are still scammed, even in this day and age. It just boils down to them being dumb & not thinking before they jump head first into something. No other reason.

As was said, imagine what could happen if this was everyones DNA, blood group, fingerprints or full history from birth. I'm sure they would say that would all be well secured and inaccessible too, like all of this info was supposed to be.
 
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What a crazy day. We knew about the secuirty breach over a week agog (I don't work for HMRC, but a company which supports them) and were warned.

If you are sending docs liek that, the standard I believe is to drive down (two people) and present them by hand, but to send them out through the mail is astonishing. With all the redunancies happening (including possibly my self outside of HMRc as we are affected too) it's a wonder why people like that are in jobs.

But like they've said, so far there seems to be no secuirty breaches and there is no indication of any ones details falling into the wrong hands, but who knows what's in store.
 
hilly said:
If you are sending docs liek that, the standard I believe is to drive down (two people) and present them by hand, but to send them out through the mail is astonishing. With all the redunancies happening (including possibly my self outside of HMRc as we are affected too) it's a wonder why people like that are in jobs.
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I dont think it would be unreasonable for a securicor type vehicle with a small unmarked police escort to transport such sensitive information if and when it NEEDS to be moved.

If I were the leader of a organised criminal organisation with the resources to pull it off, I might plot to recover from TNT (stop reffering to Royal Mail, get your facts right) the data for sale onwards to fraudsters. Imagine the black market value for such information?!
 
When this happened to my wife, the company involved had to get the affected people 2 years subscription to the credit protection thingy from 2 of the big reference agencies.
mind you, thats in the USA where they would have been sued to hell if anyone got ID frauded.

Can you imagine any of the dozy sods in government sorting this out for all the people affected ?
 
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