why do we not restrict cars?

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just a thought to be honest...

every country has a speed limit bar germanys autobahns.. but why are vehicles not limited to 70mph seeing as in todays world you get hammered if you go over it?
 
helpimcrap said:
just a thought to be honest...

every country has a speed limit bar germanys autobahns.. but why are vehicles not limited to 70mph seeing as in todays world you get hammered if you go over it?
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You're in the fast lane doing 70, so is the guy in the middle lane and a police car comes up behind with blues and twos, en-route to an emergency. The middle lane is running nose-to-tail and can't slow down as easily...How do you let the police car past if you're limited to 70?

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Its our human right to go as fast as we want. The law is there to restrict this where needed.

Laws are there to stabalise society. You can do whatever you want, within the law.

If cars were restricted to the laws limit, then that would not be democratic.
 
Because what if you wanted to take your car to another country with different speed limits? Or if you wanted to take it on a track day?
 
Probably because restricting cars to 70mph would cause more accidents and/or problems than it would prevent!

Stupid idea to be completely honest!
 
Pinter75 said:
Its our human right to go as fast as we want. The law is there to restrict this where needed.
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I think you are confusing concepts here slightly, it might be a human desire to go as fast as possible but it isn't a human right, at least not as I, or a court, understand the term.

Pinter75 said:
Laws are there to stabalise society. You can do whatever you want, within the law.
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Indeed although moral and legal aren't always the same thing.

Pinter75 said:
If cars were restricted to the laws limit, then that would not be democratic.
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Why would it not be? It wouldn't be a smart idea to limit cars to 70mph but democracy isn't the reason. Regardless of this if the limit is 30mph but the car is capped at 70mph then it can still double the speed limit and cause injury or death.
 
dont tempt the government with ideas of electronic limiting so we can only go as fast as the zone permits...motorists already get enough flak from the gov as it is
 
i was just wondering really... as the UK has the highest national speed limit i think so if you restricted cars to 70mph then it would be enough for all other EU countries anyway.

i am totally against it but i was just wondering really.
 
Azagoth said:
Probably because restricting cars to 70mph would cause more accidents and/or problems than it would prevent!
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I dont quite agree with this. Imho it is rare that I ever have to speed up to avoid and accident, well at least in comparison with having to slow down to avoid one.

I can imagine it would prevent a lot of bike accidents as I beleive that many single rider accidents are caused simply due to excessive speed for a particular condition/corner etc and on many occasions this speed will be in excess of 70mph.

While the above is my opinion, I think this kind of restriction would be a bad idea on the whole and would receive a terrible reception from the motoring public.
 
Because the Car industry is vital component in a country's economy via taxation and the jobs they create, once you restrict cars to the level that makes them undesirable and mundane you kill a very big and lucrative industry, and no government would be foolish enough to do that.
 
They said it'll never happen, that it couldn't be implemented, it would be a nightmare to enforce.

Today, even if you were to remove the limiter, you'd be lucky to get more than 70MPH (back in the day, 85+ was quite possible)

Today, most are geared for optimum power & torque at around tthe 52 - 57MPH mark.

I'm talking about HGV's & speed limiters.

How long, I don't know, but to think limiters won't become standard on most cars is kidding yourself.

It works for HGV's (to a greater or lesser extent many would argue) it'll happen for cars.

Not what I want to see, but, the writings on the wall imo.

I very much hope that I'm proved wrong!
 
R124/LA420 said:
They said it'll never happen, that it couldn't be implemented, it would be a nightmare to enforce.

Today, even if you were to remove the limiter, you'd be lucky to get more than 70MPH (back in the day, 85+ was quite possible)

Today, most are geared for optimum power & torque at around tthe 52 - 57MPH mark.

I'm talking about HGV's & speed limiters.

How long, I don't know, but to think limiters won't become standard on most cars is kidding yourself.

It works for HGV's (to a greater or lesser extent many would argue) it'll happen for cars.

Not what I want to see, but, the writings on the wall imo.

I very much hope that I'm proved wrong!
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you can get a taster for some of the problems you would encounter by observing how the restricted lorries behave on the road now.

imagine if all the cars were limited to 70 mph. you would have a massive block of cars moving along at 70, how would you change lane?

i'm sure you've seen 2 lorries side by side on the motorway for 2 miles.

imagine that but with cars.
what if you were in the overtaking(?) lane and you wanted to leave at the next sliproad.
how would you change lane? the car to your left is also doing 70 mph, if you wait for a bit, that car will still be to your left.

so you can try slowing down and letting the car to your left undertake you.

alternatively, if you were impatient, you could take advantage of the fact that you are a couple of meters ahead of it and just pull across the front of it

it's unworkable.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I think you are confusing concepts here slightly, it might be a human desire to go as fast as possible but it isn't a human right, at least not as I, or a court, understand the term.
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I was pointing out that you have the right to do anything you want, it's the Laws that keep us in check.

If I wanted to go 200mph on the motorway, then I have every right to do so, but I know full well that the Law does not allow me to do this on public roads.

Why would it not be? It wouldn't be a smart idea to limit cars to 70mph but democracy isn't the reason. Regardless of this if the limit is 30mph but the car is capped at 70mph then it can still double the speed limit and cause injury or death.
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OK, I take you point, maybe I am trying to say that if our cars were restricted to the Laws limit, then we are being dictated to by the law makers, and the right to go faster is removed.
 
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Pinter75 said:
I was pointing out that you have the right to do anything you want, it's the Laws that keep us in check.

If I wanted to go 200mph on the motorway, then I have every right to do so, but I know full well that the Law does not allow me to do this on public roads.



OK, I take you point, maybe I am trying to say that if our cars were restricted to the Laws limit, then we are being dictated to by the law makers, and the right to go faster is removed.
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quite, but in this age more and more decisions are being taken away from us so why not eliminate the speeding instead of administering punishment?

i'm hazarding a guess that public opinion and the financial loss of no one speeding would hurt the government quite a lot.
 
helpimcrap said:
i was just wondering really... as the UK has the highest national speed limit i think so if you restricted cars to 70mph then it would be enough for all other EU countries anyway.
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No, in France the motorway limit is 130km/hour when dry which is 80mph ;)
 
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