A friend's new tattoo

haha is that actually permanent? or just drawn on for a laugh.

if it's permanent, that's majorly gutsy

but he's gna look a **** in 5 years
 
Proves nothing. My comments earlier were with regards to successfull people in a large banking enviroment. Until you prove otherwise by letting us know your position, my opinion remains the same.

The fact is, if 2 people are identical in personality, skill and attitude, 99% of the time the person without the piercings, tattoo's and horrific holes in their ears will get the position. The whole point of mutiliating yourself in this fashion is to stand out and be different from the norm, this doesn't always fit in with the work place enviroment.

I love how your last paragraph starts with 'the fact is', and then you go and state a situation which could never happen.

Plus, you're making a huge assumption about the interviewer. Assuming your situation could feasibly happen, how do you know that the interviewer does not also have those 'horrific' holes, and therefore would look more kindly on candidate with the mods than the plain Jane??
 
Yea sure mate.

Not sure what you doubt about that, it's pretty much what would happen in a school environment.

He works for a large company supporting business customers using their services. Stop jumping to conclusions Tom and grow up.

Does he work over the phone or not? How big the company is is irrelevant, my point was he doesn't meet customers face to face, and if he did it would most likely be held against him.

Plus, you're making a huge assumption about the interviewer. Assuming your situation could feasibly happen, how do you know that the interviewer does not also have those 'horrific' holes, and therefore would look more kindly on candidate with the mods than the plain Jane??

Pretty much stems down to the same point, the chances of someone with random holes in them getting high enough up in the business to interview candidates.
 
The whole point of mutiliating yourself in this fashion is to stand out and be different from the norm, this doesn't always fit in with the work place enviroment.

well i'm glad you've managed to work this one out for me
i've mutilated myself to be different from the norm
i knew there had to be a reason!!

(posts like yours really make me cringe)
:rolleyes:
 
Not sure what you doubt about that, it's pretty much what would happen in a school environment.

You seem to be forgetting the fact that the people who start the trends in schools are the "cool" people, and last time I checked, geeks weren't cool, and didn't tend to be the leaders in school social groups....

Proves nothing. My comments earlier were with regards to successfull people in a large banking enviroment. Until you prove otherwise by letting us know your position, my opinion remains the same.

The fact is, if 2 people are identical in personality, skill and attitude, 99% of the time the person without the piercings, tattoo's and horrific holes in their ears will get the position. The whole point of mutiliating yourself in this fashion is to stand out and be different from the norm, this doesn't always fit in with the work place enviroment.

Except most people with tattoos etc probably won't want to go into the banking world in the first place. Top-tier business is the only place you could make the argument you are making basically, and not everyone wants to go into that.

This thread has just gotten stupid.

Why, because you just posted in it? *chortle* <3
 
You seem to be forgetting the fact that the people who start the trends in schools are the "cool" people, and last time I checked, geeks weren't cool, and didn't tend to be the leaders in school social groups....

However as soon as one of these "cool" people find out what the name is, it'll be used.

Either way this is getting too deep for a simple point, it's a crap name.
 
Does he work over the phone or not? How big the company is is irrelevant, my point was he doesn't meet customers face to face, and if he did it would most likely be held against him.
Actually his previous job was a customer facing role, i think that was around the purple hair phase as well. He is very good at his job the customers couldn't have cared less.

How about me? I work in a retail environment where the way you look is important (clothes shop) i have stretches, piercings and tattoos i've NEVER had anyone, customer or colleague, say anything against it.
 
Does he work over the phone or not? How big the company is is irrelevant, my point was he doesn't meet customers face to face, and if he did it would most likely be held against him.

I have large scars on my ears from stretching, and I've just got a retail job.

I've also NEVER had an interview and not got the job. That's companies including newspapers, banks, printing companies and now a worldwide retail store. And while I interviewed for ALL the jobs excluding this latest one, I had ALL my jewellery in. And there was plenty. My head's usually shaved as well.

If you can do the job and they like you, you'll get the job.

The people that do the hiring for companies I actually would want to work for tend to have the foresight and intelligence to see past ear jewellery.

The morons who can't are stuck in the past and are starting to have no place in modern business.

If you have jewellery in and don't get a job, it's not because of the jewellery, it's because someone was better than you, or you're a gonk and someone was more interesting than you. It might well have been someone like me, Karbon, or Penski.
 
Why, because you just posted in it? *chortle* <3

snarf snarf!!

because the people who dislike mods are arguing with the people who love mods. the people who dislike them will automatically judge them in job interviews and not hire them. the people with mods will know why they didn't get hired, not really care and move on. meanwhile, the people who hate them will spend the rest of their waking lives trying to observe the world around them, but they can't because it's difficult to turn 360° with a stick in your ass
 
they can't because it's difficult to turn 360° with a stick in your ass

Maybe I should realise that body modification, including cutting (at least temporarily), can give people a layer of control over themselves that can be extremely beneficial psychologically.

Or I could remain sane.

Just for the record I'm talking about discrimination within important/career jobs, not minimum wage till jobs.

Nice to see there's so many people rushing out to defend this Shannon guy, who appears to have mental issues.
 
I honestly can't believe there are still people so blinkered and 'reserved' (for want of a better word) in their views in this day and age.
 
This thread got me thinking about how I have looked in my past job roles. When i had a face full of piercings, I was a retail manager, customer facing and responsible for recruiting staff. No one seemed bothered with how I looked, as I was brilliant at my job and was eventually promoted to training manager, where I would be visiting other shops and seeing lots of different members of staff.

I'm an accountant now, and still have some piercings although the facial ones have gone. No one in the office cares about my tatoos, except to say they are pretty, and generally speaking I don't see my customers so everyone's a winner.
 
Maybe I should realise that body modification, including cutting (at least temporarily), can give people a layer of control over themselves that can be extremely beneficial psychologically.

Or I could remain sane.

Just for the record I'm talking about discrimination within important/career jobs, not minimum wage till jobs.

Nice to see there's so many people rushing out to defend this Shannon guy, who appears to have mental issues.

I'm not defending Shannon - I couldn't give a crap about him to be honest. his life is his own. I'm defending myself, because I have mods - I got them because I HATE my ears. always have done. but now, because I love the way my mods look, and because it makes the thing I hate about them less obvious; I'm confident about the way I look completely (I could lose a few lbs, but who doesn't think that?!). How can you say that something that can so drastically change someone's confidence is a bad thing - irrespective of whether you think it'll be detrimental to their career choice.

My career is a web developer for an HR & Payroll company. I have 2 stretches in 1 ear, and industrial in the other and I have dreadlocks. Nothing was said about it at my interview because, surprise surprise - it doesn't affect my ability to do my job! people are slowly realising that.
 
Actually his previous job was a customer facing role, i think that was around the purple hair phase as well. He is very good at his job the customers couldn't have cared less.

How about me? I work in a retail environment where the way you look is important (clothes shop) i have stretches, piercings and tattoos i've NEVER had anyone, customer or colleague, say anything against it.

A clothing shop isn't a stereotypical environment of a retail environment though..it's one of the few high street type shops where you get some bloody weird looking people. The kind of person I see in Cyberdog in Camden fit in perfectly for that shop because of the mods, but if you're looking for a standard retail environment, you are probably better talking about Dixons, or Waterstones etc etc where I'm fairly sure you wouldn't get hired if you were extensively modded (a nose piercing or something small is probably okay though).
 
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