A friend's new tattoo

[goldilocks]

Maybe I should realise that body modification, including cutting (at least temporarily), can give people a layer of control over themselves that can be extremely beneficial psychologically.
Or I could remain sane.
Just for the record I'm talking about discrimination within important/career jobs, not minimum wage till jobs.

PD if your profile is correct, you are younger than me, yet you have the outdated, bigoted opinions of someone who has had a lot more years to become bitter

you have posted some pretty means comments in this thread
i know i take things like this way to personally, but every time someone criticizes something i 'love' - it affects me
i dont think you have the right to criticize the jobs anyone chooses to do (as you have been doing)
you are making sweeping comments which are both incorrect and show lack of though

if you read my post much earlier in the thread, i do not have a minimum wage / till job
i have a job which i feel is both worthwhile and important
i don't know why i feel the need to justify myself to you
but please think before you post things which people may take offense to

i am not defending the guy in the OP - i am defending myself

 

[Skeptic]

I am male. I had blue hair, 2 10mil tunnels, tongue, lip, a weave and a rook piercing. I worked in BHS for 4 years (during college/some of Uni) as a dept. manager. Before I left I was offered a job of store manager. Perhaps I'm an exception?

 

[Blackstar]

A clothing shop isn't a stereotypical environment of a retail environment though..it's one of the few high street type shops where you get some bloody weird looking people. The kind of person I see in Cyberdog in Camden fit in perfectly for that shop because of the mods, but if you're looking for a standard retail environment, you are probably better talking about Dixons, or Waterstones etc etc where I'm fairly sure you wouldn't get hired if you were extensively modded (a nose piercing or something small is probably okay though).

I work in GAP. But i have also worked in B&Q and again, nothing ever said. I don't have my nose pierced, i had septum and lip piercing.

 

[Carzy]

I work in GAP. But i have also worked in B&Q and again, nothing ever said. I don't have my nose pierced, i had septum and lip piercing.

Looking at your picture on Rogues Gallery though, you aren't really on the same level as this Shannon guy....I'm leaning more towards heavy modding with what I'm talking about...

 

[Karbon]

Proves nothing. My comments earlier were with regards to successfull people in a large banking enviroment. Until you prove otherwise by letting us know your position, my opinion remains the same.

what relevance does that have in respect to the thread when your inital comment was aimed at a gentleman who's a self employed programmer/designer?

Nice to see there's so many people rushing out to defend this Shannon guy, who appears to have mental issues.

Penski knows Shannon personally so yes i'd say part of his post was a defence. i was personally defending myself, judging someone based on their looks (or the way they cut their hair ) wether Shannon does or doesn't have issues bears nothing on why I got my mods. the way you're talking everyone who has a tattoo or piercing has issues.

Looking at your picture on Rogues Gallery though, you aren't really on the same level as this Shannon guy....I'm leaning more towards heavy modding with what I'm talking about...

i have 18mm tunnels in both ears. multiple lip nose and eyebrow piercings. implants up my right arm. and 2 stars cut into the back of my wrists.

the job i'm currently in involves me meeting quite a lot of our customers, in order to continue or bring new contracts to the company and the department. the company i work for is one of the largest in the world.

 

[Hxc]

I'm not a huge fan of all the body modding stuff (that white ink is quite a snazzy concept, though), especially the ear tunnels, but people here who are saying he is mentally ill most definitely have some problems of their own. I'm quite shocked in all honesty.

 

[PurpleDinosaur]

I'm not a huge fan of all the body modding stuff (that white ink is quite a snazzy concept, though), especially the ear tunnels, but people here who are saying he is mentally ill most definitely have some problems of their own. I'm quite shocked in all honesty.

http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Shannon_Larratt

Read that then tell me you don't think he's been adversely effected by issues in his childhood.

He's a mentalist!

Penski knows Shannon personally

From what I've read, he has exchanged a few e-mails with him and followed the guys life through his blog. That hardly counts as knowing him personally, #1 fan maybe.

 

[goldilocks]

Read that then tell me you don't think he's been adversely effected by issues in his childhood.

He's a mentalist!

^see above
think before you post
in your opinion someone who has body modifications has mental issues
we get it
you can stop posting the same rubbish that many many others have before you now - it's getting tiresome

 

[PurpleDinosaur]

in your opinion someone who has body modifications has mental issues

No, have you even read the link I posted?

 

[Carzy]

^see above
think before you post
in your opinion someone who has body modifications has mental issues
we get it
you can stop posting the same rubbish that many many others have before you now - it's getting tiresome

I've gotta actually fight Purple Dinosaur's corner for this one:

Psychological Problems and their Influence on BME

* Shannon suffers from extreme depression and anxiety problems and has attempted suicide several times.
* "BME" stands for both "Body Modification Ezine" and "Be Me." The latter is because Shannon spent most of his life feeling like a "freak" and having a strong need to find other people like him.
* Shannon believes that body modification, including cutting (at least temporarily), can give people a layer of control over themselves that can be extremely beneficial psychologically.

It's a fact. He has mental issues.

 

[Sic]

It's a fact. He has mental issues.

that it may be, but it's not the issue, is it? It's a totally irrelevant thing that PD has pointed out for no reason. It has nothing to do with mods, and nothing to do with this thread at all. it's the reason he got mods - he's not depressed because of them.

 

[Carzy]

that it may be, but it's not the issue, is it? It's a totally irrelevant thing that PD has pointed out for no reason. It has nothing to do with mods, and nothing to do with this thread at all. it's the reason he got mods - he's not depressed because of them.

I agree, but then whole thread is irrelevant to the OP anyway, it's been entirely derailed

 

[PurpleDinosaur]

He has mental issues.

it's the reason he got mods

and however you may see it from the stretched-ear camp, over here in normal land that is the exact reason a lot of the general public don't view "modded" people as responsible individuals.

I'm not saying that everyone with mods is mentally deranged, and I'm not saying they're any less capable at carrying out a job, but people are judged by appearances and they will be seen in that way.

 

[Column Matrix]

Where did I call him 'my mate'?

"A friend"; he is.

Generally the English language regards these as the same thing. But hey, I used to sing 'I love Martin Jol' at White Hart Lane, and then once after a game he told me he loved me too! I guess I'm one of his best mates now.

And I have NEVER had difficulty finding work. I started at the NHS yesterday...Loving it here. Got big holes in my ears, a beard, tattoos on show...all things which would apparantly stop me from being able to find work if you believe idiots such as yourself.

I take it you aren't involved with any patients then? People don't want to see unshaven, dirty freedom fighters walking round hospitals of all places.

*looks at screen*

Hmm...No mop...Plenty of servers though...

As I expected: Another IT Monkey.

Actually his previous job was a customer facing role, i think that was around the purple hair phase as well. He is very good at his job the customers couldn't have cared less.

How about me? I work in a retail environment where the way you look is important (clothes shop) i have stretches, piercings and tattoos i've NEVER had anyone, customer or colleague, say anything against it.

I work in GAP. But i have also worked in B&Q and again, nothing ever said. I don't have my nose pierced, i had septum and lip piercing.

Well done. But once again you, and all the other 'modders', neglect the fact we are talking about real jobs, not a studenty part time stacking shelves/serving at a till job that anyone can get.

Wear all your accessories to a real job interview and see what happens.

I still don't understand it though. What the **** is the point in modding yourself up into a cartoon character? Sic mentioned because he didn't like his ears, he decided to mod them up and tear a few holes into them - I'm sure that made them better. The fact you went to such lengths to change something you have no control over is absolutely retarded.

 

[Spyhop]

Anyway, that camouflage Porsche is

 

[Column Matrix]

* "BME" stands for both "Body Modification Ezine" and "Be Me." The latter is because Shannon spent most of his life feeling like a "freak" and having a strong need to find other people like him.

This has to be the most ironic statement in history. BME stand for Be Me ROFL. Yes, be yourself guys! Go tear some holes into every layer of cartilidge you can find, and then draw pictures all over yourself while adding so many implants under your skin you now infact have BODY ARMOUR.

Make sure you take a before and after shot though, because I think you will find you NO LONGER LOOK ANYTHING LIKE YOURSELF? SO THE CONCEPT OF "BE ME" IS COMPLETELY THROWN OUT THE WINDOW IS IT NOT?

 

[Vix]

Well done. But once again you, and all the other 'modders', neglect the fact we are talking about real jobs, not a studenty part time stacking shelves/serving at a till job that anyone can get.

Wear all your accessories to a real job interview and see what happens.

Didn't bother reading my post then? Just stick to the posts that support your theory, it makes you look much better.

 

[PardonTheWait]

* "BME" stands for both "Body Modification Ezine" and "Be Me." The latter is because Shannon spent most of his life feeling like a "freak" and having a strong need to find other people like him.

This has to be the most ironic statement in history. BME stand for Be Me ROFL. Yes, be yourself guys! Go tear some holes into every layer of cartilidge you can find, and then draw pictures all over yourself while adding so many implants under your skin you now infact have BODY ARMOUR.

Make sure you take a before and after shot though, because I think you will find you NO LONGER LOOK ANYTHING LIKE YOURSELF? SO THE CONCEPT OF "BE ME" IS COMPLETELY THROWN OUT THE WINDOW IS IT NOT?

You've missed the point in spectacular fashion.

Be Me, in this case, is about modifying yourself to fit your mental image of yourself - BE the ME you want.

Also RANDOM CAPITALISATION doesn't make you look any LESS of a BIGOTED RETARD.

 

[PardonTheWait]

Well done. But once again you, and all the other 'modders', neglect the fact we are talking about real jobs, not a studenty part time stacking shelves/serving at a till job that anyone can get.

Mac Operator.

Exceptions Processing.

Studio Operative/Artworker.

Mac Specialist - Customer facing.

The last four jobs I've successfully applied for and got, despite having multiple piercings, stretches and bars in both ears, tattooed forearms, and a shaved head. For the last one, there's no longer any jewellery in my ears but I have very visible scars on my lobes. They still have fairly large holes in them.

In both the artwork/design jobs I was chosen over people with graphic design degrees, despite having only a BTEC qualification.

Do one.

Edit for clarity: My ear jewellery was removed because wearing it all with a motorbike helmet on is painful. If I didn't ride a bike it would still be in there, and I don't doubt I would still have got the job.

 

[Column Matrix]

You've missed the point in spectacular fashion.

Be Me, in this case, is about modifying yourself to fit your mental image of yourself - BE the ME you want.

Also RANDOM CAPITALISATION doesn't make you look any LESS of a BIGOTED RETARD.

So his mental image is a cartoon character in DragonBall Z land? And people reckon this guy and all the other 'modders' don't have mental problems?