A friend's new tattoo

PurpleDinosaur said:
From BME website: "What’s New Today (Sep 26)"

Must be doing well to be kept so up to date.

I believe entirely it's his work, I don't believe it's profitable enough to afford a £40,000 Porsche and enough capital to fly around the world filming a BME film.
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I gather there's been some friction between the people running the site, and I'm not sure he's actually involved anymore. The Porsche isn't worth £40k either - I can't remember what's up with it but I think it's a repo/stolen recovered/fixed write-off or somesuch.

The store section of BME presumably generates good money, I've bought from them and know many people who have. Also, BME isn't his only venture, he has and has had others.

I'm not claiming he's some sort of messiah - I know basically nothing about him, but I see no reason whatsoever as to why you don't think he's doing well. He runs a couple of businesses, he does ok. I don't see why you assume it's down to his father purely because the guy looks odd. His dad sounds quite barmy too - how do you think he did well?

aardvark said:
it would seem fairly obvious that he isn't very happy - you don't have to be a psychiatrist to work that out.
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What do you think is wrong with him?

Do you think I'm unhappy because I'm tattooed and have been pierced?
 
Mohinder said:
I don't see why you assume it's down to his father purely because the guy looks odd.
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You seem to be missing what I've been saying, he has a couple of niche businesses, one of which he isn't involved in anymore apparently. The main thing about niche businesses being they usually take more capital to buy in stock etc due to few suppliers, and have a smaller consumer base to aim for, meaning, in the majority of cases, they make little profit.

Because of this, I doubt the fact he seems to be "doing well" enough to buy fairly expensive cars and fund the filming of this BME film is down to his business ventures or coding a website. Although I'm not sure how promoting the benefits of self-harm is doing well exactly, sounds more like he needs help.


Mohinder said:
What do you think is wrong with him?

Do you think I'm unhappy because I'm tattooed and have been pierced?
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I suggest you read the "Psychological Problems and their Influence on BME" section of this webpage: http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Shannon_Larratt


Certainly gives the mental profile of a happy man, doesn't it?
 
Mohinder said:
Who cares what his mental image is? He was born with it. There's nothing he can do about what he wants to look like.

But what he CAN do is whatever makes him happy. Which he does. And he's presumably more 'successful' than you - and no doubt richer. I bet he gets more fanny too.

Why's he such a loser?

He's happy.
He's fairly wealthy.
He has a child he loves.
He has a cool car.
He has tons of friends.
He has a career.
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# Shannon suffers from extreme depression and anxiety problems and has attempted suicide several times.

He sure is happy.
 
PurpleDinosaur said:
I suggest you read the "Psychological Problems and their Influence on BME" section of this webpage: http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Shannon_Larratt


Certainly gives the mental profile of a happy man, doesn't it?
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Do you think he's depressed because he does it, or does it because he's depressed?

It's a positive part of his life that has done good things for him.

Despite having problems, he's undeniably reasonably successful, and you can't get your head around it.

We deal with problems in different ways, and what he does to himself is far less destructive than how many people deal with depression - his giving up pot is a positive thing too, but barely anyone has mentioned how crap that can be for your mental wellbeing.

The man's got issues, but his being modified doesn't make him some sort of nutcase, it actually makes him better than he'd be without it.

Column Matrix said:
# Shannon suffers from extreme depression and anxiety problems and has attempted suicide several times.

He sure is happy.
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Are you aware that it's not as simple as depressed and unhappy being exactly the same thing? The people saying he needs help... have you not considered that the things he does are him helping himself?
 
Mohinder said:
Do you think he's depressed because he does it, or does it because he's depressed?

It's a positive part of his life that has done good things for him.

Despite having problems, he's undeniably reasonably successful, and you can't get your head around it.

We deal with problems in different ways, and what he does to himself is far less destructive than how many people deal with depression - his giving up pot is a positive thing too, but barely anyone has mentioned how crap that can be for your mental wellbeing.

The man's got issues, but his being modified doesn't make him some sort of nutcase, it actually makes him better than he'd be without it.

Are you aware that it's not as simple as depressed and unhappy being exactly the same thing? The people saying he needs help... have you not considered that the things he does are him helping himself?
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I think he does it because he's mentally unwell, not quite sure how that helps your argument but ok.

As for being successful, I've already explained my views on that, I doubt any of his (what seem to be previous) companies made significant profit, and I'm highly confident that he has squandered a large sum of his fathers money. The fact he's filming all over the world for a BME film that will undoubtedly not make back the money required to fund it just makes me more certain.

Depressed and unhappy are not exactly the same thing, no, but they are related, and I don't think you can be depressed and happy at the same time.

Nice to see you're sticking up for the self-harm promoting loon though, wouldn't be because he's conforming to an image you approve of is it? How shallow of you...
 
PurpleDinosaur said:
From BME website: "What’s New Today (Sep 26)"

Must be doing well to be kept so up to date.
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His ex-wife locked him out of the site two months ago and tried to claim it as her own...That's why it hasn't been updated in two months. Things should be back to 'normal' (with a load of updates) in a few days, hopefully. In the meantime, go to bodytwo.com

I believe entirely it's his work, I don't believe it's profitable enough to afford a £40,000 Porsche and enough capital to fly around the world filming a BME film.
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BME isn't a profit-making site. He's been offered millions (literally) to sell it in the past and has always refused. It's only within the last year that a handful of pages gained Google ads in order to help with the huge bandwidth costs.

But then you have IAM as well...A massive social networking site which has been around since the mid nineties...That's also run at a loss.

And as I said before, UnderMars which is run as a completely free service to members of the armed forces. Warning, the site is uncensored and all content is placed there by serving men and women...It's also 'the website' where a lot of photos of abuse by soldiers were discovered.

February 2005 said:
]At present UnderMars is pushing out 26mb/s of data and climbing fast. To put that into context, that's approaching three hundred gig a day or nine terabytes a month of transfer. Expensive! I've cut the resolution and quality of the images slightly so they're about a third the size, which I hope will halve my bandwidth. If anyone has 100+ mb/s of bandwidth they are able to donate for this (about $5k a month), please contact me. I will keep the site online as long as possible but if the bandwidth continues to climb I will not be able to afford to.
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When the US government brought in laws stating that all US-based websites would have to hold name, age and address information for all people on that site, he moved all his servers to Canada at great cost (which was not passed on to the end users.

All good things in my eyes...

*n
 
PurpleDinosaur said:
As for being successful, I've already explained my views on that, I doubt any of his (what seem to be previous) companies made significant profit,
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Invalid point. The ones you'll hear about are all ran specifically as not-for-profit organisations.

and I'm highly confident that he has squandered a large sum of his fathers money.
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The same father who is a hippy with tattoo'd hands? ;)

The fact he's filming all over the world for a BME film that will undoubtedly not make back the money required to fund it just makes me more certain.
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Filming was completed ages ago. It's been in production since but (seeing as it's one of many projects) it's coming along slowly.

Nice to see you're sticking up for the self-harm promoting loon though, wouldn't be because he's conforming to an image you approve of is it? How shallow of you...
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So that's it. You think body modification is self harm. That explains your retarded views on the matter.

*n
 
PurpleDinosaur said:
Nice to see you're sticking up for the self-harm promoting loon though, wouldn't be because he's conforming to an image you approve of is it? How shallow of you...
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I don't know why you think you know me, but I can assure you you don't.

I suppose I am sticking up for him, but he doesn't need it. His business is his business. I am sticking up for people doing whatever they like provided it doesn't harm anyone else, which is something you seem to be against.

And that's sad.
 
penski said:
So that's it. You think body modification is self harm. That explains your retarded views on the matter.

*n
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Ok, well most of your points were irrelevant and just confirmed my view of him wasting a whole load of money on body modification websites etc.

As for your quote above, I was referring to:

BME Wiki said:
Shannon believes that body modification, including cutting (at least temporarily), can give people a layer of control over themselves that can be extremely beneficial psychologically.
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Ah, so cutting ourself gives us a layer of control over ourselves. Right.

You could just be mentally stable in the first place, but that's a crazy idea.
 
PurpleDinosaur said:
Ok, well most of your points were irrelevant and just confirmed my view of him wasting a whole load of money on body modification websites etc.
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Maybe he simply wants to provide a much-required (judging by the page hits/bandwidth involved) service free of charge to the population at large...Did that thought ever occur to you? ;)

As for your quote above, I was referring to:



Ah, so cutting ourself gives us a layer of control over ourselves. Right.

You could just be mentally stable in the first place, but that's a crazy idea.
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Mental health isn't a choice ;)

Hang on...I think I've worked out who you are...

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Don't hang around for too long...You'll end up all slitty-eyed.

*n
 
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Mohinder said:
Are you aware that it's not as simple as depressed and unhappy being exactly the same thing? The people saying he needs help... have you not considered that the things he does are him helping himself?
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Its not really helping though is it?

If as you say he is so succesful and:

He's happy.
He's fairly wealthy.
He has a child he loves.
He has a cool car.
He has tons of friends.
He has a career.

then why is he depressed and needs to inject himself with plastercine every 2 weeks. I think he's a **** to be honest, still depressed and yet *apparantly* he has basically everything someone could ask for, while there are people out there with **** all but still think its the best thing on earth that they wake up everyday.

penski said:
BME isn't a profit-making site. He's been offered millions (literally) to sell it in the past and has always refused. It's only within the last year that a handful of pages gained Google ads in order to help with the huge bandwidth costs.

But then you have IAM as well...A massive social networking site which has been around since the mid nineties...That's also run at a loss.

And as I said before, UnderMars which is run as a completely free service to members of the armed forces. Warning, the site is uncensored and all content is placed there by serving men and women...It's also 'the website' where a lot of photos of abuse by soldiers were discovered.

When the US government brought in laws stating that all US-based websites would have to hold name, age and address information for all people on that site, he moved all his servers to Canada at great cost (which was not passed on to the end users.

All good things in my eyes...

*n
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If nothing he does makes a profit where does the money come from to keep it running? While he is swanning around in fancy cars and spending thousands on silicon.

penski said:
A few years back I contracted as a project manager for BT Major Business. For the uninitiated, the MB clientele is BT's top 500 customers (including financial institutions). I had purple-tinged hair, big holes in my ears (although not as big as I have now), a big hole through the middle of my nose, a big hole through my lip and tattoos which are visible with a short-sleeved shirt on.

The role involved desk-based and face-to-face work directly with customers from shop floor to boardroom.

My modifications were never a point of contention and were often used as a positive identifier "Is the guy with the piercings in? We need something done..."

My point is that no matter what you may have pretentions to believing, professionalism, ability and communication skills shine over your preconceptions.

A good point - one of the guys I went to college with is store manager (or deputy store manager...I haven't spoken to him in about a year) for Waterstones...He looks like he should be working at Cyberdog...Bloody woolyheads.

I enjoy my job, work with a great bunch of people and couldn't wish for more. What's wrong with working in IT?

As an aside, I've also worked in sales (face to face too, ducky ;)) and account management...For Cisco nonetheless...

...But you'll ignore that because you've already shown that you only partially quote posts which you can use to enforce your bewilderingly backward world view.

I wear all of my jewelery to every interview. Removing it would gain nothing. What makes the interviews I have had any less 'real' than any others?

I like the way my modifications look and feel. I don't pretend to have some deep mystical influence or reasoning. I simply enjoy them on an aesthetic and physical level. If you can't understand that, you must have a room temperature IQ. If you like, I can explain it monosylabically for you...Perhaps I can draw a diagram?

*n
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You're 23 and somehow you've had all these important managerial jobs, but now you're working for the NHS as an IT Monkey in a cupboard filled with servers somewhere?

This bit cracks me up:

"I enjoy my job, work with a great bunch of people and couldn't wish for more. What's wrong with working in IT?"

Didn't you say you started yesterday? Bit early to proclaim things like that. Give it at least a few months.

penski said:
The same father who is a hippy with tattoo'd hands? ;)
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Where does is the proof he was a hippy with tatoos on his hands?

# His father, Richard, is a former Canadian wrestling champion, body builder, and computer professional (so Shannon grew up around computers). He is now an oil baron living on a boat running a sailing website.

He might have some tattoos, after all, my dad has a tattoo on one of his arms and he's still normal. But I doubt his dad is a fully fledged lunatic who is hell bent on turning himself into one of the cast from StarGate SG1.
 
/me is confused.

Is this thread about the tattoo, the person who got it done, the friend/acquaintance of the tattooed person... or none of the above?
 
Column Matrix said:
If nothing he does makes a profit where does the money come from to keep it running? While he is swanning around in fancy cars and spending thousands on silicon.
He's an 'IT monkey' ;)

And who said nothing he does makes a profit? I just pointed out that the sites assumed to be his 'business ventures' were in fact set up as the complete opposite. Hell, BME's been around for thirteen years now. It started as a handful of pages and pictures.

You're 23 and somehow you've had all these important managerial jobs,
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I left college at 18 and have spent the majority of the last five years contracting (but oddly this is my first non-PAYE job...hence my other thread). I've only had two permenant jobs in that time; one which I left to start the contract at BT, the other one I was made redundant from. Not bad for someone with three crappy AS levels, eh?

The beauty of lots of contracts is that you quickly learn to build up your skillset and to be absolutely perfect at what you're doing. If you're not, you simply get told not to bother turning up the next day.

but now you're working for the NHS as an IT Monkey in a cupboard filled with servers somewhere?
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Quality non-sequiteur. I work in an office and onsite across the PCT. Why do you have such a grudge against the IT profession? Are you a compsci graduate who has only just realised that their degree has next to no relation to their employability in IT? Did you get turned down for a job in IT? Wait...Did they hire someone with big holes in their ears?

This bit cracks me up:

"I enjoy my job, work with a great bunch of people and couldn't wish for more. What's wrong with working in IT?"

Didn't you say you started yesterday? Bit early to proclaim things like that. Give it at least a few months.
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The job is the same as jobs which I have done (and enjoyed) in the past. I enjoy doing this job. I wouldn't do it if I didn't. Hell, I could go back to being a supervisor in a supermarket...I did that through high school and college.

I'd also like to think that I am a good judge of people in person and the people in my department are all as friendly, happy and open as I have found them to be. Nobody has a sour face at work, we all share most of the same interests and sense of humour and there is a good atmosphere. When I have to deal with people outside the department (whether on the phone or face to face), they always respond well to me.

*n
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Wow what an interesting thread, been viewing for the last few days but not replied as i cant keep up with the varied and surprising replies.

So just some thoughts of my own:-

The original OP tattoo

Don’t like it and in my opinion only a little naff. But...this is purely based on my interests and likes which doesn’t include guitar hero games or brightly coloured tattoos.
Hell I have tribal tattoos, which for the last 10 years some people have criticizing saying they are only a fad and I will regret then in two years time. ;)

Tattoos with meaning

When someone has a tattoo why do people go on about it having to have some deep and meaningful reason behind it? Tattoos are art/illustration why can’t they be appreciated on visual merit? No one complains when someone spends £xxx,xxxx on a painting that has no direct link to the owner.

Tattoos in the work place

Some of the comments in here are way off the mark when it comes to recruitment and hiring decisions based on personal appearance. Yes in certain roles where you interact with clients of certain beliefs and where public appearance needs to be considered then yes visible tattoos may harm your employment chances, although I wouldn’t expect this to be the norm.

I guess those saying ‘omg you have tattoos, you don’t stand a chance here!’ aren’t actually involved in hiring nor up to date with their companies HR policies.

Shannon chap

Yes maybe extreme when it comes to his hobby/interests/beliefs but probably no different from a football fan that eats/sleeps/worships his favourite football team.

If the comments about him doing a lot of this as a result of depression are true then yes it’s not healthy and he probably should seek help but knocking tattoos and peoples like for them based on this one guy is a bit narrow minded to say the least.

As I expected: Another IT Monkey

Great comment :p Us so called ‘monkeys’ do rather very well in our jobs and in most cases get paid a wage reflecting the effort/work we put in. But just out of interest how does this job actually have any bearing on a discussion about tattoos?
 
Don't like it, the question arises... WHY?

But everyone to their own taste and opinions.
 
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