Steroids? Legal or Ilegal?

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I would'nt do it. Its not worth it.

I would just tell him to get to the gym now and work hard for 8 weeks. The results would be better after 8 weeks at the gym than 8 weeks on steriods.

Does he only want to take steriods so he looks good at the gym when he starts?
 
Admiral Huddy said:
I've seen first hand the effects of steroid abuse and it isn't too pleasant.

Violent behaviour, bad skin, acne, organ failure, incompetence, divorce etc to name a few .. So please don't contemplate it
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Ive trained in gyms with steroid users for 10 years, I just wonder what makes you such an expert?

IMO, since its not illegal to use them; its personal choice. I chose not to use them but I don't deny that Ive done 3 courses. So I am in a position of knowledge on the subject. I have used them but I have decided I don't want to use them. I only used them because I was encouraged to by a m8 who was an avid user.

Using steroids is not all bad, it doesn't make u a loser; if you are a loser and take steroids, its not the steroid's fault.

I compare it to fake breasts, if it makes u happy then its up to you.

If u entered a beauty contest for all-natural models and won due to your fake breasts then it would be cheating. Same with sports. However not all sports ban steroid use; no one in Mr. Olympia is natural (I hoped u knew that).

I train in a gym where this 25 yr old 300 pound guy with very low bodyfat competes in the world strongman competitions. He is undoubtably an ass, imo; but he can generally get away with it. Although he must have a professional persona as he fits kitchens.


I don't believe that we are getting the whole picture here, I struggle to believe that someone out there would spend in the region of £100 for a course of steroids and then believe that he can gain size from doing nothing; waiting till the course ends to start training. I don't believe such a person would have the contacts to buy said gear in the first place. I think there must be something wrong in the translation.
 
just a couple of points you should mention to him

1) I bet the stuff is fake and he ordered it off the net
2)if its real I'm guessing its orals - good bye liver function
3)He probably doesn't know what pct is - goodbye balls and gains after the cycle
4)I hope he is happy with his frame - mens bones don't stop growing till 21 there is evidence steriod use in teens will close growth plates
 
Mattx2, all drugs have side effects, but absolutely none of them as prescribed by a doctor will cause liver failure and none full stop will "goodbye balls". Its sweeping statements like yours which cause confusion.

You can even get free sterile needles on the NHS.
 
megatron said:
Mattx2, all drugs have side effects, but absolutely none of them as prescribed by a doctor will cause liver failure and none full stop will "goodbye balls". Its sweeping statements like yours which cause confusion.

You can even get free sterile needles on the NHS.
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indeed you can, i read a report that there was a higher percentage of steroid users utilising the needle swap stations than normal drugies!
 
No they are not illegal for personal use but are illegal to sell.
Few posts in here mentioning that people are very shady about steroid use, thats mainly because of this huge dark cloud that surrouinds the people who use steroids and steroids themselves, mainly because of a drastic media over reaction and drilling into the general publics head that steroids are just as bad as class A drugs and that the people who use them are the scum of the earth.
There wouldnt be such a huge thing about steroids if people would stop critising the whole steroid situation and stop listning to the media and sit down and go and find out for themselves what steroids are really about. Then they will realise that sterioud "USE" is not bad, but steroid "ABUSE" is, which is just like any other drug, including smoking and alcohol.

To the original poster, make sure the person ** asking for knows what he is doing, has researched potential side effects, and how to combat them. Which substances will be best for a first time user, post cycle treatment, diet, trainning and rest. Also obviously make sure his source is good. If he doesnt he will end up like what i like to call an "8st roid head" basicaly a litle bloke who is on gear who has no idea what hes doing, thinks hes big and thinks a good diet encoperates the regular eating of choclate and magical weight gain powders, with a big attitude to boot.
 
I'm glad the above poster made the distinction between steroid "use" and "abuse." Anybody who uses steroids for a year is increasing the risks of doing themselves long term damage. A cycle, in general, should last no more than 6 to 8 weeks max.
 
why 6-8 weeks max? fair enough orals 6-8 weeks max, less preferably, but what ive read is injectables dont really kick in till around 4 weeks or even later
 
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gav2pac said:
why 6-8 weeks max? fair enough orals 6-8 weeks max, less preferably, but what ive read is injectables dont really kick in till around 4 weeks or even later
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Depend on the substance. Oil-based yes slow, water-based quick.

You friend is going to mess himself up. He is not ready for steroids.
 
megatron said:
Ive trained in gyms with steroid users for 10 years, I just wonder what makes you such an expert?
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ditto..

Very defensive aren't we?.. something you wanna tell us? :p

Did I say I was an expert? What quantifies you as such?

tbh you don't have to be a medical expert, it's just common sense. I have seen first hand what abuse has done to my friends or people I've known to see the damage it's caused, not just to themselves but to others. This doesn't qualify me for nothing but it sure is an eye opener and was enough to put me off.
 
Morba said:
indeed you can, i read a report that there was a higher percentage of steroid users utilising the needle swap stations than normal drugies!
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I've done several courses of gear over the years and thats the thing I dreaded most. Having to go to the place where all the smack rats go to get the pins and barrels, especially as it's on quite a busy road.

Steroids can be dangerous if you abuse them, but so can many other things. Some of my mates used to call me crazy for doing it but then they were going out every weekend and dropping pills and doing stupid amounts of coke lol.

A lot of people are quick to condemn steroids when they basically don't even know anything about them. But because they see a few stupid people abusing them on the tv or in the paper they think thats what everyone who takes steroids will turn out like.
 
Admiral Huddy said:
ditto..

Very defensive aren't we?.. something you wanna tell us? :p
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Not at all, you sound like a bit of a chat-show host knowitall from your comments that steroids destroyed a marriage and will destroy the world ect, ect.

Do u know why condoms are supplied to underage teenagers? Its so they don't get pregnant or get diseases, right? Regardless of the fact that technically its illegal for them to do it. They are doing it right? So they need help.

If someone decides they want to do something as drastic as steroids, then Im sure they will heed your negative comments, NOT!

TBH u sounded like a female posting about how it effects relationships.

Why are u now personally attacking me? Im the one giving good advice, not negativity and smeering.

Very defensive aren't we?..
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If I was defensive I would probably have thought about making some snide comment like, that; however in this case it didn't even cross my mind. Who is on the defensive now?
 
mattx2 said:
just a couple of points you should mention to him

1) I bet the stuff is fake and he ordered it off the net
2)if its real I'm guessing its orals - good bye liver function
3)He probably doesn't know what pct is - goodbye balls and gains after the cycle
4)I hope he is happy with his frame - mens bones don't stop growing till 21 there is evidence steriod use in teens will close growth plates
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1). depends what he ordered.
2). with proper liver support, there won't be a problem.
3). well it's about time he found out.
4). we don't know how old he is, and I'd say more like 25, (21's the bare minimum to avoid screwing up your androgen system) but until about then your test levels are high enough for natural gains to be great anyway.
 
Isn't this just cheating tho .....? :rolleyes: I can understand if they are trying to recover from an injury?

I'm just happy to be natural and not full of man made cheating pilz and healthy! :D
 
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