The French internet banhammer comes down

ISP's always know what you're doing, and can detect P2P, I'm sure they can find out what you're downloading via P2P as well...
I'm slowly coming to the opinion that music via iTunes or similar services is almost at an acceptable enough price to mean illegal downloading is not necessary (for me, personal choice here). What is it now, 79p a tune? 6 quid for an album? Something like that... I don't think thats nearly as unreasonable as high street prices.
If only I wasnt terrified of allowing iTunes onto my PC...
 
Helium_Junkie said:
ISP's always know what you're doing, and can detect P2P, I'm sure they can find out what you're downloading via P2P as well...
I'm slowly coming to the opinion that music via iTunes or similar services is almost at an acceptable enough price to mean illegal downloading is not necessary (for me, personal choice here). What is it now, 79p a tune? 6 quid for an album? Something like that... I don't think thats nearly as unreasonable as high street prices.
If only I wasnt terrified of allowing iTunes onto my PC...
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lol, I gave up and started using itunes. Never looked back since, i therefore only buy the tunes that are worth my hard earned and I am more happy to buy 10 individual favourite songs than an album with 2 favourites on it (CD).

On the plus side, it's legal and not exactly expensive. Works with my ipod too and can access up to date music with no chance of getting a virus.

Before you tear this apart, I was the complete opposite a year ago. Never paid for anything.
 
I buy music online but hate itunes as i don't have an ipod but a sony walkman, who charge 2.50 per song. I find tescos to be a good site for music. Problem with buying songs and not albums is that you aren't increasing your listening experience very much allowing the radio to dictate your favourite songs.

Most of my fav songs were never released as singles.
 
A concern of mine is that I wouldnt be able to find any older music through iTunes. Knowing apple and their "omg look how hip and happening we are kids!11!" philosophy there is nothing older than 1995 on there...
Also, I really really hate apple :D
 
Get rid of DRM and I'd be much more inclined to use itunes more. Or at least have all the stuff I actually want without DRM :mad: and for no extra sodding cost.
 
Piracy will never be stopped, where-ever theres a block on something theres always a nerd to overcome it.

People are too intelligent these days.
 
Tom0 said:
Piracy will never be stopped, where-ever theres a block on something theres always a nerd to overcome it.

People are too intelligent these days.
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correct. For some its just a game and seen as fun.

Take me for example at the moment. In our vending machine at work you can get double vends as items on the edge often drop 2. I dont want a snickers but because there is a chance I can get 2 i will go for it anyway.

Piracy is slightly harder but fun for the nerds like double vends at work keeps me slightly entertained!
 
I started using iTunes to get my music legally.


Most of my entertainment still comes from bit torrent though. Not bothered because I don't download just to collect stuff and I don't get upset at the MegaCorps not losing a sale or the celebs not getting a new crib or whatever...

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Just read the article and it says you get a warning if "illegal filesharing software :rolleyes: is detected" - hello p2p and bit torrent are not illegal. Its what you do with them. Quick ban cars and crowbars as they can be used to do crimes. :rolleyes:

There is not a big enough rolleyes in the world for this level of stupidity (not even the one vomiting rolleyes)

:rolleyes:
 
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A new anti-piracy system revealed by the French government will work to block anyone who's busted downloading or uploading copyrighted material.

The new system comes as part of an increased effort in France to crack on the growing problem of internet-related piracy, lead by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry.

The system will apparently warn users first, giving them a notice that illegal file sharing has been detected and threatens to suspend or terminate their internet connection if they don't stop.

According to Techtree, music and audio-visual producers, as well as internet service providers and public authorities have signed a Memorandum of Understanding in support of the campaign.

Could this initiative make the jump over the English Channel? Quick, stop the torrents!
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I work for an ISP and I can assure you this will never happen. Seems like the French gov is even more out of it than ours, this really isn't going to happen.

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Cheers LordSplodge.

MHayes said:
I work for an ISP and I can assure you this will never happen. Seems like the French gov is even more out of it than ours, this really isn't going to happen.

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Why do you feel this? I know ISPs can see what you are downloading as I found that out from personal experience.
 
No they can't/don't. We get 3rd party reports from film companies, music companies and anti piracy places, they seem to just set up a bit torrent app and then simply look at the IP address they are downloading from and then submit an abuse report to whoever owns the IP address, we have to then notify the customer. Pretty simple stuff.

You can read a packets headers and see the port and protocol etc but that isn't enough to conclude what they are doing is illegal.

It would require recording vast amounts of data and scanning it all.

As for detecting "illegal P2P apps" well that is even more silly, as said they arn't illegal, try arguing that Outlook express is illegal, it is technically a newsreader and newsgroups have many legal and illegal uses. even bit torrent is legal and without preinstalling something on your system they can't detect it other than by scanning your open ports. and even then it doesn't prove anything.

Anti privacy laws would have to be destroyed for this to even be slightly feasible, and even then it wouldn't happen because it isn't the ISPs job to police this. so why spend millions of a load of hardware to do it?
 
Jono said:
Get rid of DRM and I'd be much more inclined to use itunes more. Or at least have all the stuff I actually want without DRM :mad: and for no extra sodding cost.
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I agree.



I also agree with how its ridiculous to restrict peoples legal use of certain things for the sake of the people who use it illegally.

E.G. I use torrents to download a lot of legal things. At least I did before coming to university where the network will throttle me to between 1 and 4kb/s for hours after even opening a bit torrent application as a punishment period. What the hell.
 
MHayes said:
Anti privacy laws would have to be destroyed for this to even be slightly feasible, and even then it wouldn't happen because it isn't the ISPs job to police this. so why spend millions of a load of hardware to do it?
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Money talks, my friend. The capitalists in charge of the music and movie industries buy laws. It's that simple and that wrong. All in the name of making sure "artists" and "performers" can keep that coke habit up whilst living in a 10 bedroom mansion and 12 sports cars as well as whatever other "bling" is in fashion. :rolleyes:

And they want ISP's on their side as they mostly sue people in a civil case rather than a legal case.

We, the people, can't win!
 
Helium_Junkie said:
ISP's always know what you're doing, and can detect P2P, I'm sure they can find out what you're downloading via P2P as well...
I'm slowly coming to the opinion that music via iTunes or similar services is almost at an acceptable enough price to mean illegal downloading is not necessary (for me, personal choice here). What is it now, 79p a tune? 6 quid for an album? Something like that... I don't think thats nearly as unreasonable as high street prices.
If only I wasnt terrified of allowing iTunes onto my PC...
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iTunes wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't full of DRM **** and low quality encodes. Or an Apple lifestyle product.
 
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