F1 2007/2008 Winter Testing and Rumours
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Sounds rich enough-ish (here).
Question is how much is he willing to spend/waste before calling it quits.
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Not rich enough to indefinitely finance a Formula 1 project. If it takes him 10yrs to move off the back of the grid and become a contender for points positions, then you are talking serious amounts here.
I doubt he can sustain the continuous funding.
I doubt he can sustain the continuous funding.
I know hes got money but not enough really. He needs backing from other investors and sponsership to take the team off the back of the grid.
I hope they do improve quickly through the season and fight with other teams around them.
I hope they do improve quickly through the season and fight with other teams around them.
Oops, was at work so had to keep posting time to minimumI posted exactly the same thing, but a BBC link
I agree with Emlyn_Dewar - I hope Klien gets the seat and Fisi/Ralf booted out of F1!
Ralf deserves to leave the sport completely. Hes useless. Hes far too big headed for his own liking. Any team he goes to, I think it would be a wrong choice for the team. He will just take money from them and not give anything back.
Sorry Ralf, but your days are over...
Sorry Ralf, but your days are over...
Thinking of his time at Toyota - they seem great for each other (lots of cash and not much effort) and it lasted a good few years
No other team would have kept someone like that for that time normally.... 
Yea, I was thinking that.
Ralf was'nt doing nothing at all. Many other drivers, basically the rest of the field were doing better, giving something for the team.
On the other hand though, cant blame everything on Ralf as Toyota did'nt help as it just felt that they stood still. Did'nt make any progression with thier cars.
Sometimes, Trulli was fast in practice. When it came to qualifying he did ok but when the race came, that was it. Pretty much everytime Toyota failed.
Ralf was'nt doing nothing at all. Many other drivers, basically the rest of the field were doing better, giving something for the team.
On the other hand though, cant blame everything on Ralf as Toyota did'nt help as it just felt that they stood still. Did'nt make any progression with thier cars.
Sometimes, Trulli was fast in practice. When it came to qualifying he did ok but when the race came, that was it. Pretty much everytime Toyota failed.
At the time that Fonso signed for McLaren the other drivers under consideration were still Kimi (though there were rumours that he had already signed for Ferrari) and Juan Pablo and there would have been a high chance that he would have raced alongside either of them.
Kimi is only signed for the 2008 season, with an option for the 2009 one. Rumours abound that Kimi will go at the end of next season and not take up his option.
Alonso and Massa should make a compatible pairing and Kimi will go off to drink vodka and fall off his boat.
Almost as odds Alonso insisting on a 1yr deal with whoever he joins for 2008, so that he can race against Kimi, who will oddly, be leaving to join a team in an inferior car. If Kimi stays (and this could happen), then Alonso will have to race one of his closest rivals, which we know, he doesnt like to do.
Perhaps Ferrari have already offered Alonso a contract and told him that Kimi will either by your No2 or he will be out. But once again, this would seem odd, especially if 2009 starts with Kimi as World Champ, opting to stay at Ferrari as a No2 driver.
This whole situation seems odd.
Whatever the case, Alonso seems pretty deteremined to sign a 1yr deal.
Alonso to Honda: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/071129170331.shtml
Alonso had a seat fitting at honda apparently, I didn't see this comming because of their current state of competativeness - he must have been a bit desperate!
Alonso had a seat fitting at honda apparently, I didn't see this comming because of their current state of competativeness - he must have been a bit desperate!
Bizarrely, this would actually make sense.
He will get his one year deal, now.
Honda will be beside themselves to have on their payroll, on any conditions Alonso wishes to make.
Alonso is moving there because of Brawn, where he will be hoping to do a Schumacher-type thing with Honda. Honda have the funds to do this (just as Ferrari had when MS joined them) and have signalled their intent by getting Brawn.
In 1 year, Brawn and Alonso will be able to re-evaluate the situation with the team - if things are heading in the right direction then they will stay on, if not, then either/both of them can walk away.
It works very nicely for Alonso as he seems to believe that he has something (a possible Ferrari seat) lined up in 2009.
Of course, at this stage it is just a seat-fitting. Many drivers have seat fittings when they just test a car for a few days. Force India will be having many seat fittings made for the drivers it is interviewing. If the hearing on Dec 6th goes Renault's way, Alonso may still return to them.
He will get his one year deal, now.
Honda will be beside themselves to have on their payroll, on any conditions Alonso wishes to make.
Alonso is moving there because of Brawn, where he will be hoping to do a Schumacher-type thing with Honda. Honda have the funds to do this (just as Ferrari had when MS joined them) and have signalled their intent by getting Brawn.
In 1 year, Brawn and Alonso will be able to re-evaluate the situation with the team - if things are heading in the right direction then they will stay on, if not, then either/both of them can walk away.
It works very nicely for Alonso as he seems to believe that he has something (a possible Ferrari seat) lined up in 2009.
Of course, at this stage it is just a seat-fitting. Many drivers have seat fittings when they just test a car for a few days. Force India will be having many seat fittings made for the drivers it is interviewing. If the hearing on Dec 6th goes Renault's way, Alonso may still return to them.
FFS he can bugger off
So that Hamilton will have less competition and can be left to win title after title, in years to come?
Getting rid of one of the best drivers of our time and the only current F1 driver to beat MS twice in a row isnt the way forward. We want to see the best drivers in F1 and Alonso is certainly one of them. (This goes for any sport - you want the best sports-people competing in their chosen sport).
The drivers who I would rather see the back of are Ralf Schumacher, Button, Barrichello, Coulthard, Fisichella, etc. These guys have all had their chance and I think their best days are behind them.
If Alonso joins Honda, it should be very interesting to see how Button handles him. Alonso now knows what its like to have a team mate who is fast and given equal equipment, so I think 2007 has made him a better driver mentally. If he crushes Button, then it might signal the end of Button as a possible front runner. Remember, when MS used to beat his team-mates, it used to signal the end of their careers as front running, possible WDC winning contenders. JJ Lehto and Herbert were both drivers who I felt were very quick - MS pretty much ended their careers.