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F1 2007/2008 Winter Testing and Rumours
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While the spectacle would be fun, part of me still thinks this is taking the easy way out. If cars cannot overtake it's either the design of the cars, or the track that's at fault. Shaking up the grid is a cheap, casual viewer friendly gimmick.
We still know how these races would end. With two teams having vastly superior cars to the rest of the grid, it would still be one of Kimi, Lewis, Massa and maybe Heiki on the top step at the end of each race. Any variety in this would be down to someone tripping over a "second tier" car that had no business being at the sharp end anyway. Or, being stuck behind another car on a poorly designed circuit that simply won't allow overtaking. And even if someone elseactually won a race using this system, we'd all be slating the guy for only being able to win this way...
It would also rob us of those classic overtaking moves that get remembered for many years afterwards.
Sorry for sounding like an sad old purist.
F1 is about total domination it wont make a big difference unless the cars are more equal.
We've already seen what happens, when the likes of michael schumacher gets put near the back for cheating, he just carves through the slower cars in a few laps and finishes on the podium. And yes even at Monaco.
Apart from the infamous time when Coulthard got stuck behind Pedro Diniz? and McLaren moaned and whinged like pedro should be treated like he was a back marker, when he wasnt.
He was a back marker most of the time. Daddy's money got him drives rather than a decent amount of talent.
He wasnt that bad, as team mate he matched Salo and Alesi for points, and out qualified Hill twice.
It was Enrique Bernoldi who I was thinking of.
That was Pedro DE La Rosa
Friday's died when they removed the 2 session qualifying, so doing this would remove qualifying all together. Therefore Saturday would die aswell! This would never happen as part of the success to F1 is the fact its a 3 day even with lots of support races. If the only day when any real F1 track action happened was the Sunday, track audiences would fall!
having been to the last 3 British GPs, the new saturday qualifying has actually provided more entertainment than the race! F1 is about a 2 day build up to a single spectacle! They should look at returning to low fuel qualifying and slick tyres with heavily reduced downforce to encorage overtaking, not just sticking fast cars at the back in an artificial way.
I also vote for slick tyres, with no grooves to increase mechanical grip. This will allow faster cars behind to overtake slower cars in front. Right now, because of the reliance on aerodymanics, overtaking even a slower car is difficult.
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Grooved tyres was one of the worst mistakes made in recent years I think, yay for safety... What's the point if it castrates the spectacle though?
No point having an ultra safe "sport" that nobody wants to watch.
No point having an ultra safe "sport" that nobody wants to watch.
Yep!
Low Fuel Qualifying - creates the real posibility that the guy on pole could be 1 stopping with a full tank while the guy in 4th is 2 stopping with a lighter and faster car. At present the top 10 are basically in true speed order, meaning all they do is spread out...
Meaningful Reduction in Aero Grip - This needs a meaningfull, and regulated reduction. not the 15% reductions or whatever we have seen recently that are made up by aero engineers within 2 months. Something like single piece rear wings, 2 piece front wings with no aditional flair ups etc, none of these stupid wing things on the side pods. 50% reduction or more, and development so that the cars are overall less impacted by the air from a car infront.
Slick Tyres - mechanical grip that isnt affected by the proximity to the car infront allowing true overtaking.
Three things ive been complaining about for years! and so has most of the F1 crowd, yet the FIA seem imune to it and just want to destroy the sport!
Meaningful Reduction in Aero Grip - This needs a meaningfull, and regulated reduction. not the 15% reductions or whatever we have seen recently that are made up by aero engineers within 2 months. Something like single piece rear wings, 2 piece front wings with no aditional flair ups etc, none of these stupid wing things on the side pods. 50% reduction or more, and development so that the cars are overall less impacted by the air from a car infront.
Slick Tyres - mechanical grip that isnt affected by the proximity to the car infront allowing true overtaking.
Three things ive been complaining about for years! and so has most of the F1 crowd, yet the FIA seem imune to it and just want to destroy the sport!