'Muhammad' teddy teacher arrested

She insulted their religion, which is a punishable offense..

How, by allowing a child to name a teddy bear after himself! If that's the case then surely his parents should be up before the beak then? After all, they named their child Muhammad and isn't that an offence?

It's nothing more than the backward Muslims trying to act all tough and make an example of some white, western female teacher! Whereas in reality all they're doing is making themselves look even more retarded than they already are!
 
:o damn it spelling fails me again.

But no a person is not an idol, it's why the moderate muslim religius leaders where also ****ed at the cartoons not because it showed a muslim man with a bomb on his head but purely because he had mohammed written on him, and so was disrespectful/heathenistic/making it an idol.

No swearing

Gilly
 
:o damn it spelling fails me again.

But no a person is not an idol, it's why the moderate muslim religius leaders where also ****ed at the cartoons not because it showed a muslim man with a bomb on his head but purely because he had mohammed written on him, and so was disrespectful/heathenistic/making it an idol.

Something is only an idol if it's worshipped (either directly or as a representation of an entity to be worshipped), so anyone who makes that interpretation is wrong.

I think the whole "images" thing stems from an interpretation of one command in the Koran. There's a similar one in the Christian bible, too, but that's usually interpreted to mean idols, not just images.
 
This has really miffed me, it's pretty much confirmed that Islam is no longer seen as just a religion and it's actually racist to insult it
Meaning they've reached the dizzying heights that the Jews have already managed.

This isn't a bad discussion, 'religion is crap' isn't going to help it. I don't like religion in any of its forms but I don't deny people's rights to their beliefs.
They're entitled to believe whatever they want, but if they believed that the moon was made of cheese, and the lady in question was imprisoned for saying it was actually made of rock, you'd think that was an unfair punishment for the "crime" (especially as from our point of view, no crime has occurred) (although you think that this punishment wasn't fair, so I suppose I'm actually agreeing with you here... :p)

Who are you to deny them it? [teaching]
We don't need to deny them it, if they keep playing games like this with real people, eventually, no-one will want to go there to teach. Then they'll be screwed.
 
Meaning they've reached the dizzying heights that the Jews have already managed.

jews suffered for it.

And we still take the **** out of them :p

2nd warning within 5 posts in the same thread. Next one will be a suspension. NO SWEARING.

Gilly
 
Actually, I meant that if, like the Jews, they can sneak their religion into law as a race, they're automatically protected by race laws.

Which is ludicrous. If it's a race, you're born to it and you die it. If it's a religion, you choose it (or get indoctrinated by parents/church) and you can give it up (under threat of eternal damnation :rolleyes:)

It can't be both.
 
Actually, I meant that if, like the Jews, they can sneak their religion into law as a race, they're automatically protected by race laws.

Which is ludicrous. If it's a race, you're born to it and you die it. If it's a religion, you choose it (or get indoctrinated by parents/church) and you can give it up (under threat of eternal damnation :rolleyes:)

It can't be both.

Well Jews, do/have inbred (within the religion not family), even when only in a small number amid a large non Jewish populous and as such, generally have obvious physical/genetic characteristics so fit every definition of a race.
 
With respect to the naming of sons "Mohammed" the following quote may explain to an extent why it is acceptable.

Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, explained why the name was so popular.

He said: "Muslims from all backgrounds tend to be immensely proud of the Prophet Muhammed and his achievements and feel strongly that they should respect and honour him.

"Naming their children Muhammed is one prominent way of demonstrating their love for him and I am sure there is also an element of hoping and praying that the child will be blessed and will come to embody some of the noble characteristics of the Prophet."

Reaz Ahmed, from the Islamic Community Centre in Tottenham, north London, said many felt by naming their son Mohammed they were showing Allah they loved the Prophet even more than their own flesh and blood.

He said: "In the Koran the Prophet said, 'If you do not love me more than your parents or your children, or anybody else in the world, then your faith will not be fulfilled.’

"Naming your son after the Prophet is therefore a matter of faith and respect."

As to the teachers case, I could support the Sudanese if and only if the naming was done in the intent to insult the prophet, and she should then quite rightly be deported forthwith. However it was an innocent (if a little naive) gesture and as such should be wholly forgivable by any religion. As spawn pointed out the non-radical muslim community is as aggreived by this as everyone else.

~S
 
I think it is very arrogant of us to seek for her release when another country's court have sentenced her for their crime. Yes, it is absurd that they have jailed her for naming a teddy bear, but it is absurd to us. We don't enforce the European convention of human rights on them and I don't know why we are doing it here. Just because it is a British citizen? If she was drug smuggling then i don't see anyone would do anything, so i can't see why she has been given "special treatment".
 
I think it is very arrogant of us to seek for her release when another country's court have sentenced her for their crime. Yes, it is absurd that they have jailed her for naming a teddy bear, but it is absurd to us. We don't enforce the European convention of human rights on them and I don't know why we are doing it here. Just because it is a British citizen? If she was drug smuggling then i don't see anyone would do anything, so i can't see why she has been given "special treatment".

because it's not illegal, what she did?
 
I think it is very arrogant of us to seek for her release when another country's court have sentenced her for their crime. Yes, it is absurd that they have jailed her for naming a teddy bear, but it is absurd to us. We don't enforce the European convention of human rights on them and I don't know why we are doing it here. Just because it is a British citizen? If she was drug smuggling then i don't see anyone would do anything, so i can't see why she has been given "special treatment".
What a ridiculous way of thinking. What the hell has arrogance got to do with it. She's a British citizen, charged of an absurd crime. Lets hope you never get in trouble abroad and expect your country to help.
 
What a ridiculous way of thinking. What the hell has arrogance got to do with it. She's a British citizen, charged of an absurd crime. Lets hope you never get in trouble abroad and expect your country to help.

Last I check she wasn't in England when she committed their crime. British citizen or not has NOTHING to do with it.
 
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