What do you Believe
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Life is for living i said, but three weeks with snowdrop :S
I believe in an omnipresent, omnipotent power that is above and beyond all things but also a part of everything and constantly learning and growing.
I believe that my life will last for eternity, because I live now.
I believe that I have ultimate control over my own choices and destiny and that all my choices have already been made.
I believe that it doesn't really matter what people believe because everyone believes what they believe to be true and everyone is correct in their beliefs.
And because I can't help myself:
I believe in a thing called love
Just listen to the rhythm of my heart
There's a chance we could make it now
We'll be rocking 'til the sun goes down
I believe in a thing called love
Ooh!
I wanna kiss you every minute, every hour, every day
You got me in a spin but everythin' is A.OK!
Touching you, touching me
touching you, god you're touching me
Lets hope god touches all of you in that special way
I believe that my life will last for eternity, because I live now.
I believe that I have ultimate control over my own choices and destiny and that all my choices have already been made.
I believe that it doesn't really matter what people believe because everyone believes what they believe to be true and everyone is correct in their beliefs.
And because I can't help myself:
I believe in a thing called love
Just listen to the rhythm of my heart
There's a chance we could make it now
We'll be rocking 'til the sun goes down
I believe in a thing called love
Ooh!
I wanna kiss you every minute, every hour, every day
You got me in a spin but everythin' is A.OK!
Touching you, touching me
touching you, god you're touching me
Lets hope god touches all of you in that special way
Judges 21:10-24
2 Samuel 12:11-14
Exodus 21:7-11
Judges 11:29-40
Isaiah 13:15-18
Hosea 13:16
Psalms 137:9
This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person. Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.
In my rather limited reading around the subject, it seems that a lot of spiritual traditions contest that thinking in terms of good and evil, while perhaps useful as a starting point for morality, is indicative of quite a primitive state of mind. A higher one might be where you think only in terms of what is right. Right thought breeds right action and therefore, whether something is good or evil becomes a moot point. When a situation demands a certain action, it is taken.
I don't really think you are able to properly effect free will until you reach as objective a state of mind as that, but that's just me.
Anyway, the inference is therefore that our attempts to label god or god's actions as good or evil are nothing but a reflection of us and our limited way of thinking.
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Wow. If you people are getting your knickers in a twist about the bible and Christians then you'd have a real hard time understanding my beliefs!
Suffice to say that I have more gods than I can count (technically more Goddesses than gods but lets not argue semantics) and have a tendency to dress up in robes!
I love science and logic but these things don't give me comfort. Only Love and my faith does that.
Suffice to say that I have more gods than I can count (technically more Goddesses than gods but lets not argue semantics) and have a tendency to dress up in robes!
I love science and logic but these things don't give me comfort. Only Love and my faith does that.
i dont really believe IN anything but i probably believe that there is a higher power due to something called logic.
Oh wait yeah....i believe IN sheep. Good ole sheep...let the sheepdog guide you and the nice shepherd keep you safe so you never have to think....
ultimately we are all sheep. Remember your place...
Baahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes i know)
Oh wait yeah....i believe IN sheep. Good ole sheep...let the sheepdog guide you and the nice shepherd keep you safe so you never have to think....
ultimately we are all sheep. Remember your place...
Baahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes i know)
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i dont really believe IN anything but i probably believe that there is a higher power due to something called logic.
Oh wait yeah....i believe IN sheep. Good ole sheep...let the sheepdog guide you and the nice shepherd keep you safe so you never have to think....
ultimately we are all sheep. Remember your place...
Baahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes i know)
Can I join your religion?
Wow. If you people are getting your knickers in a twist about the bible and Christians then you'd have a real hard time understanding my beliefs!
and have a tendency to dress up in robes!
I love science and logic but these things don't give me comfort. Only Love and my faith does that.
No matter how many Starwars conventions you got to,Jedi will never be considered a religion.
Although i do have an interest in Theology,i also like Astronomy,and think anyone who believes in religion is either too stupid,or too ignorant to understand the facts about the universe.In fact anyone who thinks they understand how our universe works is as bad as the religious crowd.The only thing that anyone should consider being close to a god is our Sun.If people just realised that we don't realy know anything,we could concentrate on more productive things.
ironically you already have
the sheep i posted is 15% human (link where pic is from)... i wondered why it looked weird
Why did god let his "son" suffer, after his son prayed and practically begged to not be killed?
I suspect the reply to this to be something along the lines of how he was giving his only son for us... Or something like that, but that just dosn't make sense with me, Jesus screaming "my god, my god, why have you forsaken me" on the cross. It really dosn't seem like the work of a very nice guy.
It is compulsary for us to study religion GCSE at our school, and for two and a half hours a week I try to keep an open mind to what I'm being taught, but it has never really stuck on me. The idea of this supposedly blind faith seems like a nicer terminology for false hope to me.
I respect peoples beliefs, and i'm willing to listen to most justified arguements. But the thing that really gets me is that you cannot have a reasonable arguement with someone who has total faith (In my experience anyway), and that they refuse to listen to my arguement of a more scientifical approach without passing it off as rubbish, when their side of the arguement has even less factual backup than mine.
P.S I dont believe in god. (Just in case you hadn't realised
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I suspect the reply to this to be something along the lines of how he was giving his only son for us... Or something like that, but that just dosn't make sense with me, Jesus screaming "my god, my god, why have you forsaken me" on the cross. It really dosn't seem like the work of a very nice guy.
It is compulsary for us to study religion GCSE at our school, and for two and a half hours a week I try to keep an open mind to what I'm being taught, but it has never really stuck on me. The idea of this supposedly blind faith seems like a nicer terminology for false hope to me.
I respect peoples beliefs, and i'm willing to listen to most justified arguements. But the thing that really gets me is that you cannot have a reasonable arguement with someone who has total faith (In my experience anyway), and that they refuse to listen to my arguement of a more scientifical approach without passing it off as rubbish, when their side of the arguement has even less factual backup than mine.
P.S I dont believe in god. (Just in case you hadn't realised
)
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You haven't played ffx have you?
Personally i dont believe in any 'god' of any sort as i have never had any reason to believe otherwise. That being said i cant really see how the universe had a start, it's most likely more like a continuous cycle as mentioned earlier(i dont have any proof, just seems to make sense). I guess it may be hard for someone to comprehend that as everything on earth seems to start from somewhere so i suppose it takes a fair amount of 'faith' to believe in what i think
Why did god let his "son" suffer, after his son prayed and practically begged to not be killed?
I suspect the reply to this to be something along the lines of how he was giving his only son for us... Or something like that, but that just dosn't make sense with me, Jesus screaming "my god, my god, why have you forsaken me" on the cross. It really dosn't seem like the work of a very nice guy.
It is compulsary for us to study religion GCSE at our school, and for two and a half hours a week I try to keep an open mind to what I'm being taught, but it has never really stuck on me. The idea of this supposedly blind faith seems like a nicer terminology for false hope to me.
I respect peoples beliefs, and i'm willing to listen to most justified arguements. But the thing that really gets me is that you cannot have a reasonable arguement with someone who has total faith (In my experience anyway), and that they refuse to listen to my arguement of a more scientifical approach without passing it off as rubbish, when their side of the arguement has even less factual backup than mine.
P.S I dont believe in god. (Just in case you hadn't realised
I was brought up roman catholic and still find it hard not to believe, I don't know where I stand at the moment. I do think though that what religion you follow is based on where you are born so that seems to me as though it can't be right. It's not religion based on belief as much as it is based on how you were brought up and the culture you grew up in.
I entirely agree with that point, i've lived in Belfast all my life, and for anyone else here I specifically lived in west belfast during my younger years. And ever since the day I was born I was put in a society that was entirely intolerent of the protestent church, my bed time stories were stories about my family blowing them up. (Metaphorically of course) And I know the situation here is nowhere near as bad as it used to be, but I hate the idea of discriminating against certain groups of people for something they have little choice about (i.e the young child protestents)
Just seems morally wrong to me.
I can tell you what I don't believe...
I don't believe we are having this thread yet again. How many bloody times can you debate this stuff?!
I'm up for discussing this, but everyone knows that no one will agree. So why keep having this over and over again, with the same arguments and the same counter arguments?
I don't believe we are having this thread yet again. How many bloody times can you debate this stuff?!
I'm up for discussing this, but everyone knows that no one will agree. So why keep having this over and over again, with the same arguments and the same counter arguments?
I was christened and went to Catholic schools, but I've kind of developed my own ideas of what I beleive (which is, IMO, the right way to do it, faith is a very personal thing, and something you should discover and decide on yourself, not be force fed. I had an excellent RE teacher who instead of telling us what to believe, told us what the catholic church teaches, and then let us discuss it and decide for ourselves).
I believe there is something bigger and more powerful than us. Whether thats God, several Gods, or something else, I'm not really sure.
I also believe there is something else after death. Whether thats heaven, or reincarnation, or we just become white floaty things that annoy stupid living people, again I'm not really sure.
I believe the bible is, amongst other writings, (and probably even films and tv), teachings from God. Not because a loud voice told people what to write, but because we were created with instincts and feelings that nobody teaches us, but are there from birth. It is not, however, a book full of true stories. It shouldn't be taken literally, and taking quotes from it don't give the full story, it should be taken as a whole.
I believe all religions worship the same thing. There is no right or wrong religions, we just interpret them in a different way.
Why do I believe these things? Probably because it makes me feel better, but then, prove I'm wrong. You can't. That's why its called faith. There is no evidence, but you have faith that what you believe is true.
These are my ideas, what I think might be true, but I also think other peoples ideas are equally valid. Like I said, there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to religion. It's all about what you think.
People's ideas (whether they are a hardliner or don't believe anything at all) are very important and personal, and I get really annoyed when I see people critising or attacking people's faith. Unless you can prove otherwise, who are you to comment?
I also believe that this post probably makes no sense at all. It's very difficult to describe your own faith and opinions..
I believe there is something bigger and more powerful than us. Whether thats God, several Gods, or something else, I'm not really sure.
I also believe there is something else after death. Whether thats heaven, or reincarnation, or we just become white floaty things that annoy stupid living people, again I'm not really sure.
I believe the bible is, amongst other writings, (and probably even films and tv), teachings from God. Not because a loud voice told people what to write, but because we were created with instincts and feelings that nobody teaches us, but are there from birth. It is not, however, a book full of true stories. It shouldn't be taken literally, and taking quotes from it don't give the full story, it should be taken as a whole.
I believe all religions worship the same thing. There is no right or wrong religions, we just interpret them in a different way.
Why do I believe these things? Probably because it makes me feel better, but then, prove I'm wrong. You can't. That's why its called faith. There is no evidence, but you have faith that what you believe is true.
These are my ideas, what I think might be true, but I also think other peoples ideas are equally valid. Like I said, there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to religion. It's all about what you think.
People's ideas (whether they are a hardliner or don't believe anything at all) are very important and personal, and I get really annoyed when I see people critising or attacking people's faith. Unless you can prove otherwise, who are you to comment?
I also believe that this post probably makes no sense at all. It's very difficult to describe your own faith and opinions..
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Don't let your head explode with this, but if more Christians were like you, I think I would have more time for it. I admire you for your own faith and for your understanding of other peoples.
well, I don't believe science has all the awnsers.
But I don't belive in an after life and tbh I really hope there is no after life. That's not because I think there is a hell, if I was religious then I would believe there to be no hell.
Suppose I'm a true agnostic, I don't really care and i don't now what is out there.
But I don't belive in an after life and tbh I really hope there is no after life. That's not because I think there is a hell, if I was religious then I would believe there to be no hell.
Suppose I'm a true agnostic, I don't really care and i don't now what is out there.
I dont believe anyone. And make my own decisions. Is there something we dont know about, well I would say thats 100 guaranteed. Life after death? Nope. And really dont want life after death either being here once was bad enough. Eternal sleep will do me fine.
If you want my own wacky theory I think we are all in some kind of future mmo. Doesnt sound far fetched if you think about it. Computing power 1bn+ years ahead. Maybe God was a spotty nerd controlling his minions after all. And still no cure for the common cold, and labour still in power *shudders*
If you want my own wacky theory I think we are all in some kind of future mmo. Doesnt sound far fetched if you think about it. Computing power 1bn+ years ahead. Maybe God was a spotty nerd controlling his minions after all. And still no cure for the common cold, and labour still in power *shudders*
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