Flaming Star Wars

fatherdougal

fatherdougal

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Post-pub decided to watch Episode III for the first time in ages and I can't get over how cheesy the dialogue is! Really wish that Lucas had splashed some of his cash on someone decent to give it a re-write.
Also visuals on a up-scaled DVD and a 37" 1080p are not really that great, some of the special effects look a bit ropey.
Only positive thing about it is that it makes me want to start playing Battlefront II again!
 
Michael Bay is spot on when he said that the Star Wars CGI are although good, they have a "pastel" look to them. Light don't reflect off them like it should and making it really fake looking.

Strange thing is that ILM did the 75% of the CGI in Transformers too and they look life like.
 
a lot of cheese, but it's star wars, what do you expect?

Overall, I thought they were pretty good. The storyline/dialogue does need a lot of work, but I thought they did a pretty good job with the CGI, esp EP III. The battle scene(with spaceships) at the beginning of the movie really did it for me.
 
The biggest problem I had was with all the rendered clone troopers etc, they are supposed to be men in suits, no matter how good your CGI is, you can never make it look better than sticking a bunch of blokes in suits:confused:
 
Sweetloaf said:
The biggest problem I had was with all the rendered clone troopers etc, they are supposed to be men in suits, no matter how good your CGI is, you can never make it look better than sticking a bunch of blokes in suits:confused:
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Surprised me that they used CGI as they could have put say 10 men in suits and just replicated them on screen.
 
Sweetloaf said:
The biggest problem I had was with all the rendered clone troopers etc, they are supposed to be men in suits, no matter how good your CGI is, you can never make it look better than sticking a bunch of blokes in suits:confused:
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That's the problem with Lucas, when there is a problem he would use CGI to solve it. Where Michael Bay and Spielberg would minimise the use of CGI, really think about where you use it. Capture as much real world footage as you can, if it's filmed from real stuff then it is real, no need to fake it with CGI.

Did you know that in Jurassic Park there are only about 50 CGI shots?
 
Raymond Lin said:
Michael Bay is spot on when he said that the Star Wars CGI are although good, they have a "pastel" look to them. Light don't reflect off them like it should and making it really fake looking.

Strange thing is that ILM did the 75% of the CGI in Transformers too and they look life like.
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I've always assumed it was a very deliberate stylistic choice that was made somewhere along the line. He's never aimed these films as something particularly high-brow high-class cinematic works. They've always been aimed fairly child friendly, and the prequels seemed to take that a step further. The droid army could very easily have been far more polished and realistic, but that would lose a lot of the child-like, otherworldly look.
 
Raymond Lin said:
That's the problem with Lucas, when there is a problem he would use CGI to solve it. Where Michael Bay and Spielberg would minimise the use of CGI, really think about where you use it. Capture as much real world footage as you can, if it's filmed from real stuff then it is real, no need to fake it with CGI.

Did you know that in Jurassic Park there are only about 50 CGI shots?
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:confused: Are you sure?

Where the dinasours just men in suits as well?
 
CGI is odd. The dinosaurs in the original Jurassic Park look better than in Jurassic Park 3! Although animatronics were used probably more heavily in the first, even the scenes where it is clearly cgi... they still look better.

Whats up with that? :/
 
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