Received my new N82 today... frst impressions...

Can't MSN till later tonight... add me using the email addy in trust and i'll get back to you tonight mate. :)

Updated review a bit too.
 
I'd just like to add that you incorrectly state the speed increases are because of the increased RAM. The speed increases are entirely to do with the faster processor in the phone. The increased RAM simply adds stability and a better multitasking experience.
 
So the RAM doesn't account for any increased performance: ie speed and responsiveness when switching between menus with multiple programs open?

I think we're starting to get a tad anal here... :)
 
Richdog said:
So the RAM doesn't account for any increased performance: ie speed and responsiveness when switching between menus with multiple programs open?

I think we're starting to get a tad anal here... :)
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Basically no. Certainly the increased ram has far less of an effect on speed than the faster processor. Original N95 has same amount of RAM as N73 but faster processor. It is far more responsive than the N73 even though the RAM remains unchanged.
 
Richdog said:
So the RAM doesn't account for any increased performance: ie speed and responsiveness when switching between menus with multiple programs open?

I think we're starting to get a tad anal here... :)
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Basically no. Certainly the increased ram has far less of an effect on speed than the faster processor. Original N95 has same amount of RAM as N73 but faster processor. It is far more responsive than the N73 even though the RAM remains unchanged.
 
mrochester said:
Basically no. Certainly the increased ram has far less of an effect on speed than the faster processor. .
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Adding more Ram can easy make more difference then a faster processor if the phone is running very low on ram....

It the same as a PC...try comparing a windows XP PC with 256mb of ram and faster processor then a windows XP PC with 512mb...
 
mrochester said:
Basically no. Certainly the increased ram has far less of an effect on speed than the faster processor. Original N95 has same amount of RAM as N73 but faster processor. It is far more responsive than the N73 even though the RAM remains unchanged.
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Eh? The N73 had 20MB total RAM with an average of 6-10MB free, the N95 has ~64MB total RAM, average of ~20MB free. Think you need to do some reading up on the specs!

Either way it's pretty damn obvious that the increase in RAM has attributed to the speed and responsiveness of the phone in everyday use, and that's clearly what I meant. You're being a bit pedantic to be honest. :)
 
Eh? The N73 had 20MB total RAM with an average of 6-10MB free, the N95 has ~64MB total RAM, average of ~20MB free. Think you need to do some reading up on the specs!
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I think it's you who needs to read the specs! N73 and original N95 both have 64mb RAM with about 20MB free on boot. The N95 is infinitely more responsive than the N73. Conclusion = the faster processor of the N95 makes the difference, not the amount of RAM, as they are the same. http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N73

Quote from above link...

SDRAM Memory: 64 MB

~14 MB Free Executable RAM Memory
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Not quite sure why it says only 14mb, certainly my 3 months with the N73 I always had 20mb free after boot.
 
My bad I mistook the "free" bit for "total", my mistake. Either way you're still being a tad pedantic... it really doesn't matter and you're making a huge kerfuffle about it. For the record my N73 averaged around 10MB or often less free memory on average, often dropping lower. I didn't reboot it daily. Considering that the phone always got more sluggish the more RAM was in use I think it's safe to say RAM does improve performance. Try using Windows with 256MB memory and a X3800+ processor. Switch to 2GB RAM with the same processor and you'll find everything runs a lot amooother and quicker. :)
 
Richdog said:
My bad I mistook the "free" bit for "total", my mistake. Either way you're still being a tad pedantic... it really doesn't matter and you're making a huge kerfuffle about it. For the record my N73 averaged around 10MB or often less free memory on average, often dropping lower. I didn't reboot it daily. Considering that the phone always got more sluggish the more RAM was in use I think it's safe to say RAM does improve performance. Try using Windows with 256MB memory and a X3800+ processor. Switch to 2GB RAM with the same processor and you'll find everything runs a lot amooother and quicker. :)
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Sorry I just want to make the point to perspective buyers that it is the processor that makes the biggest difference to performance, not the RAM, so they know to look out for the right thing if they want it to be speedy when buying a phone.

Another example if the 6120, which has 64mb RAM with 20mb free after boot (same as N73 and original N95), but also has a speedy 369mhz processor (in comparison to the 220mhz of the N73). 6120 is also infinitely faster than the N73.

In addition, my N95-8GB, which has 128mb RAM, is no faster than my original N95, which had 64mb RAM. The *only* difference the RAM has made is that it has improved multitasking... I can now have loads of apps open at once without them automatically shutting down. If the logic from above was applied, the doubling of memory in the N95-8GB should give it tremendous performance improvements. This is simply not the case, because the processor is still the same.
 
It's all about comparative performance though. If you put 128MB in a Windows XP system, it chugs to hell. Put 1GB in, and for the most part it's smotth as a babys bum. Double that to 2GB and you notice a negligible improvement in performance, as the OS already had a good amount to work with anyway.

With the N73 it was running with a low amount of memory 95% of the time and having in general more than one app open in the background, it was the equivalent of that 128MB RAM in XP. The N95 has that equivalent 1GB, while the N95 8GB doubles that to an equivalent 2GB, more than enough for a comparatively simple phone OS.

I think the improvements to the Symbian OS released in the Feature Pack 1 the N95 used also accounted for a big boost in speed. :)
 
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