Bhutto killed

doodah · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:27

My Pakistani housemate certainly doesnt think she was one of the good guys, she was corrupt like most of them and her father i believe

miracleboy · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:32

Kainz said:
Oh crap, all hell is about to break lose...

I'd be surprised if this didn't result in open warfare between supporters from PPP and others.

Zip · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:35

miracleboy said:
I'd be surprised if this didn't result in open warfare between supporters from PPP and others.

With Osamas man looking on celebrating while they run wild collecting weapons

merlin · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:36

miracleboy said:
I'd be surprised if this didn't result in open warfare between supporters from PPP and others.

Result.

Means we get to liberate someone new.

I'm sure people in Washington and London are already on it. :rolleyes:

Zip · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:39

merlin said:
Result.

Means we get to liberate someone new.

I'm sure people in Washington and London are already on it.

Just think of it as a Population Kull

Sorry

miracleboy · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:40

merlin said:
Result.

Means we get to liberate someone new.

I'm sure people in Washington and London are already on it.

Pakistan have nukes and a large army - the US only go after soft targets like Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush has talked big on North Korea in the past but would never dare do anything to back it up (even he is not that stupid).

Zip · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:42

miracleboy said:
Pakistan have nukes and a large army - the US only go after soft targets like Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush has talked big on North Korea in the past but would never dare do anything to back it up (even he is not that stupid).

You do Realise India would love to run in and Destroy them if they could :eek:

And Pakistan are Squabbling among them selves and arnt getting to involved with killing westerners yet(apart from the Extremists that come out of it)

miracleboy · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:44

Zip said:
You do Realise India would love to run in and Destroy them if they could

Although I am sure they would love to, they wouldn't risk the international fallout from doing so. India are a very large international player now, with the amount of outsourcing going there they have too much to loose - they would be more than happy to just sit back and watch Pakistan destroy itself.

THE DOC · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:50

there is a distinct smell of set up though -go back home after having a dodgy past 2 attempts on her life in six weeks 1 works ,now everyone can jump in for what its worth .

Lunatic Dreyfus · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:52

She wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but at least she was a voice of reason and not full of hate. She must have known they would be coming for her at some point, but still she went back to Pakistan and out on to the streets campaigning. Benazir Bhutto certainly had courage, I'll give her that.

Sadly such traits are liable to make you a target for the darker forces at large in todays world.

Bad business.

Indy500 · 27 Dec 2007 at 14:59

Musharraf did try pacifying the tribal areas, but the Pakistani army lost 1 for 1 against the rebels, so they pulled out of the region.

As for Bhutto, I suspect ISI involvement. Islamist suicide bombers pretty much didn't exist until Musharraf took power...it would likely be through a proxy group to disguise ISI links.

Masterdog · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:01

The corruption charges against her were never proved, although from what I've heard they're probably true. But she was fighting for democracy and clearly willing to risk her life - I think we need more like her.

FrannoBaz · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:05

merlin said:
No, not at all.

Well, unless of course some honkey did it...

LOL

miracleboy · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:07

sr4470 said:
Musharraf did try pacifying the tribal areas, but the Pakistani army lost 1 for 1 against the rebels, so they pulled out of the region.

For a country that spends so much on defence spending they're not very good are they?

Zip · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:08

miracleboy said:
For a country that spends so much on defence spending they're not very good are they?

I think they are one of these Quantity over Quality type countries

Indy500 · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:08

miracleboy said:
For a country that spends so much on defence spending they're not very good are they?

Nope, their aircraft proved largely useless in the Waziristan campaign, and the rebels inflicted heavy casualties (according to the Wiki article, over a few weeks about 1,000 troops were lost).

CossackNoodle · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:11

majority of countries in that region are extremely corrupt india pakistan bangladesh etc and any leader usually is

JAzz · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:18

Gilly said:
She was pro-democracy, and diametrically opposed to the Zia-ul-Haq regime. A forward-thinker in a backward nation.

She was as corrupt as they come, this forward thinking stuff was only to get the west on her side. She had robbed the country in her time before and was only back because she saw another chance to do it again. Just like most of the other Pakistani politicians are only it in for the money and that is why the country is going down the pan.

miracleboy · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:20

There is corruption wherever there is money or power. Just look at the cash for honours scandal in this country and Enron in the US. It's just that in 3rd world countries it is more prevelant, or more likely, visible (easier to hide corruption when you have good accountants).

Gilly · 27 Dec 2007 at 15:21

Most of them??

Her policies were for an overall improvement. A moderately bad person in a murky world of very bad politicians.

I wouldn't say she was one of the good guys but I also wouldn't argue that she wasn't one of the better of the bunch.