HP w2207h = yummy

Ven-detta said:
Looking to get a 22" this one has just popped into the picture along with the Pebble and it seems to have a few good calls so far, excluding the panel maker difference of course.

Big question then, better than a pebble or not ?
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I think it boils down to aesthetics and personal choice. There always seem to be nay-sayers and doom and gloom merchants whatever you look at. The Pebble has build quality issues? This one has screen issues? Take your pick.

To me the HP doesn't look as bulky, a slightly cleaner design. The stand is good too, height adjustable and you can pivot the screen 180 degrees (should you want to).
 
I popped down to a PC retailer shop today, the one with the muppets in the purple shirts and took a look at both the HP 2207 and the 2232BW and I have to say the HP blew apart the 2232 sharpness, vibrance and colours.

Since they only had a demo of some cartoon playing I couldn't see what ghosting was like in games but of the two, the HP seemed to be miles ahead.

Of course I doubt they'd calibrated either of them properly, the Samsung looked dull, bleak, washed out, faded, fuzzy text. The HP 2207 was really colourful, it's difficult to describe but it just had a much much much better picture than the Samsung. Oh and the Samsung panel had very very clear bleeding, the black was awful on it.

However, I've now heard that the 2207's have a panel lottery too. So the question is, how do you know if you've got a good one? I was thinking of buying it either tomorrow or Saturday.
 
Jimmy T said:
I have just bought one. Got the Rev. ITM001 which is LM220EW01-V2 = Innolux.

Seems to suffer from a degree of backlight bleed at the bottom which is a bit disappointing. On the plus side there were no dead pixels and it is height adjustable which is a nice feature. Can't be bothered taking it back so i think i will stick with it and see if I can sort it out with calibration.
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I've the same one. tiny bit of back light bleed, but only noticable the odd time. I think it's a great panel.
 
Just read a 37 page thread on these HP W2207 "v" and "H" versions

"H" version being the one to buy now of course, from the last few posts on here and a number of posts on the Hardforum its seems that the label on the box gives a good indication of panel maker.

ie:

STM001 = Samsung panel "S" for samsung ?
ITM001 = Innolux panel "I" for Innolux ?

No idea of the LG panels not seen any real indication of them.

All a rough guess at the most though, proberly as the only way to tell is by going in the service menu once you've actualy bought it.

In real life though maybe it would be hard to tell which panel if any was better than another unless you had all 3 set up in the same room to compare , So is it realy something to be worrying over ?

I hate trying to decide which LCD to buy, it's a nightmare :)
 
Ven-detta said:
Just read a 37 page thread on these HP W2207 "v" and "H" versions

"H" version being the one to buy now of course, from the last few posts on here and a number of posts on the Hardforum its seems that the label on the box gives a good indication of panel maker.

ie:

STM001 = Samsung panel "S" for samsung ?
ITM001 = Innolux panel "I" for Innolux ?

No idea of the LG panels not seen any real indication of them.

All a rough guess at the most though, proberly as the only way to tell is by going in the service menu once you've actualy bought it.

In real life though maybe it would be hard to tell which panel if any was better than another unless you had all 3 set up in the same room to compare , So is it realy something to be worrying over ?

I hate trying to decide which LCD to buy, it's a nightmare :)
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I think GTxxxx means LG? Anyway, mine was made in Dec 07, if that is any help to anyone.

There's always someone with a downer on things, but I agree it gets very confusing. One minute you think you've found exactly the right bit of kit and the next someone is pointing out a seemingly glaring problem with it.

BTW, where's the 37 page thread?
 
Alex R said:
BTW, where's the 37 page thread?
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I know the one, has plenty of info and yes the GTM002 are indeed LG panels. :) Really wish we’d kept hunting down Samsung version as LG panel simply don’t cut it imo, doom merchant or not it’s an opinion I’m entitled to share after messing about with two of these now.

To be more detailed; all four corners suffer above average backlight bleed, poor black levels despite the gloss screen, blue and red dominance is horrific no matter what software used to calibrate either monitor. Awful in anything other than native resolution (nothing new of LCD's), HP's quoted 5ms is way off the mark, have since found out the actual figure is fair bit higher and was confirmed by a certain well known site (cant link, competitors adds slapped all over), so it's certainly not one for movie viewing or heavy FPS gamers. I hate to think what those Innolux panels are like as they really don’t like them on that other forum in the said 37page thread.

On the plus side; the stand and general build quality are great, gloss screen is meant to give 'mock' impression of improved black's and contrast, text is sharp and clear, options a plenty, HDMI support and comes bundled with HDMI cable.

If I can source my brothers the much sort after S-panel tomorrow; then I will suggest they try two of them instead, however when looking early this week every single place only had the inferior HP w2207h GTM/ITM panel versions left (well, according to that 37page thread they’re inferior, and to me would now seem to be indeed correct).
 
sansnom said:
I popped down to a PC retailer shop today, the one with the muppets in the purple shirts and took a look at both the HP 2207 and the 2232BW and I have to say the HP blew apart the 2232 sharpness, vibrance and colours.

Since they only had a demo of some cartoon playing I couldn't see what ghosting was like in games but of the two, the HP seemed to be miles ahead.

Of course I doubt they'd calibrated either of them properly, the Samsung looked dull, bleak, washed out, faded, fuzzy text. The HP 2207 was really colourful, it's difficult to describe but it just had a much much much better picture than the Samsung. Oh and the Samsung panel had very very clear bleeding, the black was awful on it.

However, I've now heard that the 2207's have a panel lottery too. So the question is, how do you know if you've got a good one? I was thinking of buying it either tomorrow or Saturday.
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How much was it when you went to see? Just checked the website and it's £279? :-\
 
I just went to Tesco's and got one for £230.00 , Its my First 22inc LCD and i must say so far its good . I wouldnt say its as Clean as my old Iiyama Pro 454 on images but its nice to look it . Iv not really seen any other 22inc monitors so i cant really compair it , But id give it 8 / 10
 
Doohickey said:
How much was it when you went to see? Just checked the website and it's £279? :-\
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Indeed its 279 on their website but it's sub 200 everywhere else. Just do google search on it and you'll find a hundred other UK retailers selling for <200 including high street retailers.
 
Where do i see what Model i got ? On the back it Says made Oct 2007 and then the Code is :

GTMH3.4 / ?

I Dont see any Codes that some of you guys have listed above.
 
sansnom said:
Indeed its 279 on their website but it's sub 200 everywhere else. Just do google search on it and you'll find a hundred other UK retailers selling for <200 including high street retailers.
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I must really suck at googling, I only found one 'common' retailer with it in stock at £199.99, meh.

Also, did you see the W2207H model or the W2207 (i.e. the one with Dvi and not HDMI) in store?

Thanks :)
 
jasonsony735 said:
Where do i see what Model i got ? On the back it Says made Oct 2007 and then the Code is :

GTMH3.4 / ?

I Dont see any Codes that some of you guys have listed above.
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On the box, large sticker which looks like this >


Doohickey said:
did you see the W2207H model or the W2207 (i.e. the one with Dvi and not HDMI) in store?
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That one has been replaced with the H model since July/August 2006 iirc.
 
Ok so let me sum this up quickly (I think..) :

The best w2207h, were the ones with the Samsung panel, S something right?

But all of the current models being sold everywhere are either GMT's or the Innolux panels, and this therefore means:

That they arent worth getting? Because basically i have one sitting in a box wondering if i should return it or not and now i have no clue what to do.
 
ozzaman said:
Because basically i have one sitting in a box wondering if i should return it or not and now i have no clue what to do.
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LG panels = Hit n miss (In my case both miss)
Samsung panels = Most are excellent
Innolux panels = Avoid

The two ive got here are going back tommorow for S versions, if not then my brothers will have refund untill i find them another LCD for simular money.
 
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Ok see thats the thing, if i open it up and fiddle about im not sure i will be able to return it. Plus that '37 page thread' seems to be suggesting that panels manufactured recently e.g. oct/nov, are all either LG's or Innolux. So a 'good' w2207h cant be had. Am i right?
 
ozzaman said:
Ok so let me sum this up quickly (I think..) :

The best w2207h, were the ones with the Samsung panel, S something right?

But all of the current models being sold everywhere are either GMT's or the Innolux panels, and this therefore means:

That they arent worth getting? Because basically i have one sitting in a box wondering if i should return it or not and now i have no clue what to do.
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This sounds like nonsense tbh - if it's samsung made you'd see just as good panels in their own range and yet they're utter junk.
 
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