Nvidia 9000 series news

Trixxy · 6 Jan 2008 at 20:12

I hope it's not true, it's confusing enough with the current 8 series refreshes (GTS512 and GT256/512).

They should have just called them 8850 XX whatever.

Was looking forward to something that'll play Crysis at max stuff, a slightly faster 8800 won't cut it.

Will wait for more reliable sources though of course.

Trixxy · 6 Jan 2008 at 20:15

This whole situation has annoyed somewhat with Nvidia, sure they didn't have to do much for a year seeing as ATI had nothing to compete with, but ATI were still releasing cards/drivers when the tables were turned a few years ago and it was NV playing catchup.

LoadsaMoney · 6 Jan 2008 at 20:21

The real next gen's will probably be the G100's, they probably gona hold onto them until ATi's next one appears (R700), see if thats finally gona ovetake their over 1 year old tech.

XeNoN89 · 6 Jan 2008 at 21:13

This is crap, we want real new cards Nvidia

Tute · 6 Jan 2008 at 21:16

Trixxy said:
This whole situation has annoyed somewhat with Nvidia, sure they didn't have to do much for a year seeing as ATI had nothing to compete with, but ATI were still releasing cards/drivers when the tables were turned a few years ago and it was NV playing catchup.

I think we've reached a "ceiling" with graphics architecture anyway, much like was done with processors a while back.

Both ATi and nVidia have realised that simply increasing the number of pipes, clocks, and shaders isn't going to work. Look at the coolers we've needed recently.

I personally think that if it was to carry on like it is for another generation, then we would see a 9800GTX with a triple-slot cooler.

Instead it looks like we're going for a different, multi-cored path.

Cyber-Mav · 6 Jan 2008 at 21:27

wolvers69 said:
Not sure if this is already common knowledge or not.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphics/news/2008/01/04/nVidia-9000-series-Roadmap-Unveiled/p1

from that article:

We don't, however, know how many stream processors, texture units or ROPs are present; 80 sounds like a likely number though as it would hold with nVidia's suggestion that performance is more than double that of the 8600, which has 32 stream processors, but under that of the 8800 GT, which has 96 - isn't guesswork fun?

seeing as how they think the 8800gt has 96sp when it actually has 112 makes me think that these fuds don;t know what they are going on about.

Ranger07 · 6 Jan 2008 at 21:30

£500 is steep, A TRI SLI set up will require a remortgage.

wolvers · 7 Jan 2008 at 08:02

LoadsaMoney said:
The real next gen's will probably be the G100's, they probably gona hold onto them until ATi's next one appears (R700), see if thats finally gona ovetake their over 1 year old tech.

Just like Intel are doing. Waiting for the competition to catch up a bit before they blow them out of the water again. Always staying one step ahead. :rolleyes:

Scougar · 7 Jan 2008 at 09:01

To be honest, this will be to AMD's benefit. If Nvidia actually release new G100 cores very soon, then AMD will effectively be dead. Who would want (other than price) and much slower card in a new system. Whether they plan to keep an appearance of competitiveness I don't know, but think it's good news really. (Although we'd sure all love to have graphics cards that played Crysis super smooth on ultra maximum super dooper high settings).

Matthew

HighlandeR · 7 Jan 2008 at 10:24

Very unlike Nvidia this move.... true the competition may be weak at present but to simply copy them ? Nvidia have been successful if only in oblitering there competition and I so hope those leaked info is just false and that there is a new card design in the 9800GTX and that the 9800GX2 is just 2 of those

melbourne720 · 7 Jan 2008 at 10:42

Clever by NVidia, people just want a new card, the 8800 GTX is still selling, people just want something more efficient for their 24" displays.

Happy I got a 8800 GT if the march cards are just going to be refreshes

Lightnix · 7 Jan 2008 at 10:46

I couldn't imagine the 9600 GT would be much more than £80 otherwise it's going to get eaten alive by the RV670 cards.

Face it, it's going to be about 2/3 of an 8800 GT by the looks of its current spec which the 3850 (at least in its 512MB form) is certainly capable of. If nVidia wants to be competitive with this card (which I imagine they will being the rest of their 9 series looks like it's gonna be the graphical hardware improvement equivalent of sticking a big steaming pile of poo in everyone's faces) then they'll want to price it competitively or lose ground to AMD. The 9600 GT looks to be the only good thing coming from it.

XtAsY · 7 Jan 2008 at 10:48

Does anyone have any idea or information on when Nvidia's next flagship GPU (9800 GTX?) will arrive?

Talrinys · 7 Jan 2008 at 11:27

Will probably be in March, but no one really knows, the whole scene is strange right now, kinda regretting giving my brother my 8800GT by now, my current one really sucks(8600GTS), was expecting to be able to buy a new card early next month.

willhub · 7 Jan 2008 at 11:31

Talrinys said:
Well that's just your mistake of course

How is it his mistake?

At the moment the 3870X2 is looking far more intresting than the 9800GX2, the 9800GX2 is just to PCB's slapped together whilst the 3870X2 is 2 chips on one PCB and we have yet to know things like:

1: If it will use crossfire or some other method
2

rice

I think we know its going to be released before the 9800GX2.

pieman109 · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:25

Got to agree with willhub here. If the price is right and you can run two of these cards (3870X2) in xfire, then effectively you're getting four gpus on two narrower pcb boards. Now if they scale like the other 3800 series cards do, then the results "should" give nvidia a good run for their money, if not better them. I reckon ati have a good chance of closing the gap with nvidia here, which means competitive pricing hopefully. Gonna have to wait and see though it shouldn't be too long now.

Talrinys · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:47

willhub said:
How is it his mistake?

At the moment the 3870X2 is looking far more intresting than the 9800GX2, the 9800GX2 is just to PCB's slapped together whilst the 3870X2 is 2 chips on one PCB and we have yet to know things like:

1: If it will use crossfire or some other method
2rice

I think we know its going to be released before the 9800GX2.

Well i haven't seen them released and benched yet, neither have i seen a 9800GX2 benched yet, but since Nvidia seems to have no problems beating ATI with a single card (8800GTX/8800GTS512), the 9800GTX will probably rock.

HeX · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:52

Talrinys said:
Well i haven't seen them released and benched yet, neither have i seen a 9800GX2 benched yet, but since Nvidia seems to have no problems beating ATI with a single card (8800GTX/8800GTS512), the 9800GTX will probably rock.

Yes and will probably be almost twice the price as well...

Tom|Nbk · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:54

3870X2 is what it's all about couldn't give a monkeys about the 9800GX2 Pritt Stick job.

I'm hoping for the 3870X2 to be around £200

We all know how well ATi price their goods and offer decent value for money 95% of the time. Hopefully the 3870 X2 is no exception.

willhub · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:55

Talrinys said:
Well i haven't seen them released and benched yet, neither have i seen a 9800GX2 benched yet, but since Nvidia seems to have no problems beating ATI with a single card (8800GTX/8800GTS512), the 9800GTX will probably rock.

See what is the 9800GX2? Its basically 2x 8800GTS stuck together, what will the 3870X2 be? Proberbly 2 3870's on one PCB, its currently unknown if they'll use crossfire, but what we do know is crossfire scales better than SLi and for people who play crysis this is a good thing, its a good thing all around really.

The way I see it is the 3870X2 is the future, more than one GPU on one PCB and if it does not use crossfire then I think its another step in the right direction. I'm sure the 3870X2 will be cheaper to make too? Since its only using one PCB, for every 50 GX2's NV needs to use 100 PCB's so its bound to be cheaper to make the 3870X2.