ATI 3850 comes to AGP.

pastymuncher · 7 Jan 2008 at 11:38

For those of you still on AGP there are a couple of 3850's being released by Powercolour and Sapphire. They are clocked at 668/1656 for the Powercolour and 700/1700 for the Sapphire card. The Powercolour card also come with a Zerotherm cooler attached to it.

For details and links to the manufacturers sites see the Inquirer.

Admiral Huddy · 7 Jan 2008 at 11:42

Link has competitor links.

pastymuncher · 7 Jan 2008 at 12:21

Admiral Huddy said:
Link has competitor links.

They were in the States but just for you i have changed it.

vorm · 7 Jan 2008 at 12:45

I have an old X800Pro AGP - if I replaced it with one of these AGP 3850's would it be much of a jump up? If so, this would ease the wait for the next gen cards (D9E or R700).

BlizzardX · 7 Jan 2008 at 12:48

It would be an incredibly huge jump from your current card I would imagine, going on current PCI card benchmarks.

Scougar · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:04

vorm said:
I have an old X800Pro AGP - if I replaced it with one of these AGP 3850's would it be much of a jump up? If so, this would ease the wait for the next gen cards (D9E or R700).

This will be a massive jump in performance for you

I've just gone from x850xt to 3870 and difference was huge

I would also say that this card will only just be maxing out the agp slot as well, so don't worry about any limitations in performance from the slot. Bear in mind that the these cards are normally more expensive than PCI-E variants (normally), and you may see better value from selling your existing kit somewhere, and upgrading to a pci-e based system (as pci-e is cheaper normally).

(also make sure you get the 512mb version if possible, with such improved graphics you'll really need it

)

Matthew

Blackout · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:10

I want one of these AGPs as a treat for my dad's rig (who plays Computer games at a little over 60 *cough*).

vorm · 7 Jan 2008 at 13:43

Scougar said:
This will be a massive jump in performance for you I've just gone from x850xt to 3870 and difference was huge

I would also say that this card will only just be maxing out the agp slot as well, so don't worry about any limitations in performance from the slot. Bear in mind that the these cards are normally more expensive than PCI-E variants (normally), and you may see better value from selling your existing kit somewhere, and upgrading to a pci-e based system (as pci-e is cheaper normally).

(also make sure you get the 512mb version if possible, with such improved graphics you'll really need it )

Matthew

Wanted to avoid going the whole pci-e upgrade route atm as will be building fresh when the next gen gfx comes out anyway - just wanted to get the most out of what i have now to tide me over.

Scougar · 7 Jan 2008 at 14:36

Then this is very good news for you

I am loving the performance of my 3870, and the 3850 isn't very far behind at all (and if you want to get your fingers dirty, you can overclock the 3850 to 1Ghz!!!! (See gurusan's posts

))

Matthew

vorm · 7 Jan 2008 at 14:41

Nice, just need to find one now.

Dexcile` · 7 Jan 2008 at 21:18

the 3850 is looking quite neat isn't it. I havnt been following the latest hardware, infact the last time i bought anything was about 2 years ago i think but i wonder if anyone would be so kind to answer a question for me? below i have posted the details of my very old very pants rig. if i dropped a 3850 into it, to what level would i need to upgrade the other areas of the system to get the most out of the card?

MSI K8N neo2 platinum (939)
AMD 64 3000 Winchester @ 2.2GHZ
1 GB of 4400 DDR1
Radeon X800XL

im more than happy to scour ebay for maybe a AMD X2 4400 and a bit of faster ram if it means i can play stuff like cod4 reasonably and some of my old favorites like HL2 with all the candy it was meant to have when it was released

cheers

Blackout · 8 Jan 2008 at 00:04

Well my rig plays most things REALLY well (sepc in sig), even crysis is playable (for me) at 16x10 on high no AA (few slowdowns I admit...but perfectly playable) and it looks a treat.

COD4 was super too.

So yeah a 4400x2 would work nicely with 2gb ram. Actually I don't know how much those games use even dual core (maybe someone else can comment).

V F · 8 Jan 2008 at 02:31

What good will this card be to anyone with the whole fiasco for Catalyst 7.8 and newer for D3D.

Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure)
Direct3D 8 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)
Direct3D 9 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)

Mercutio · 8 Jan 2008 at 04:52

I crysis with most things turned on (@ 1680x1050) with X2 4400 and 8800GTS 640MB. Id think an AGP setup with similar processor/ram and this card would be equal/better.

El Jimben · 8 Jan 2008 at 11:40

Dexcile` said:
the 3850 is looking quite neat isn't it. I havnt been following the latest hardware, infact the last time i bought anything was about 2 years ago i think but i wonder if anyone would be so kind to answer a question for me? below i have posted the details of my very old very pants rig. if i dropped a 3850 into it, to what level would i need to upgrade the other areas of the system to get the most out of the card?

MSI K8N neo2 platinum (939)
AMD 64 3000 Winchester @ 2.2GHZ
1 GB of 4400 DDR1
Radeon X800XL

im more than happy to scour ebay for maybe a AMD X2 4400 and a bit of faster ram if it means i can play stuff like cod4 reasonably and some of my old favorites like HL2 with all the candy it was meant to have when it was released

cheers

Another gig of RAM would definitely help in games and a dual core processer certainly wouldn't hurt either, you might find that you need to update the BIOS on your motherboard if the current version doesn't support dual core CPUs though.

vorm · 8 Jan 2008 at 12:32

That's one of my problems - I'm running a 3400 Athlon64 on a 939 not AM2 so I'm pretty stuffed for a cpu u/g.

Hopefully, a 3850 AGP will still walk all over the X800 in there now even with the cpu bottleneck.

wolvers · 8 Jan 2008 at 12:43

vorm said:
That's one of my problems - I'm running a 3400 Athlon64 on a 939 not AM2 so I'm pretty stuffed for a cpu u/g.

Hopefully, a 3850 AGP will still walk all over the X800 in there now even with the cpu bottleneck.

get an x2 3800 s939 from OCers. They're only about 45 quid and overclcock quite well.

vorm · 8 Jan 2008 at 13:30

Will keep that in mind, cheers.

phatboy · 8 Jan 2008 at 13:50

wolvers69 said:
get an x2 3800 s939 from OCers. They're only about 45 quid and overclcock quite well.

mine hits 2.7 happily, my room is just a bit hot to have it running at that lol

Dexcile` · 8 Jan 2008 at 17:35

vorm said:
That's one of my problems - I'm running a 3400 Athlon64 on a 939 not AM2 so I'm pretty stuffed for a cpu u/g.

Hopefully, a 3850 AGP will still walk all over the X800 in there now even with the cpu bottleneck.

El Jimben said:
Another gig of RAM would definitely help in games and a dual core processer certainly wouldn't hurt either, you might find that you need to update the BIOS on your motherboard if the current version doesn't support dual core CPUs though.

Cheers Fellas, so you recon my MSI K8N neo2 Platinum will not support dual core cpus? i know im stuck with DDR1 aswell