Thinking Vista 64-bit -> Can you see any reason for me to not move?

Conrad11

Conrad11

Conrad11

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Hi there,

I am getting 4GB of RAM with my new PC and I am thinking of moving to vista to utilise this.

I can't see any immediate clash with hardware.

Asus P3K motherboard
Using Onboard sound - Realtek (should have drivers)
ATI Graphics card
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse (drivers available)
Bluetooth Dongle - Bluesoleil (drivers and software avaialable - i think)
Microsoft Xbox Controller - I don't know about this one, but I am hoping..lol
Can't think of anythiung else that would be affected.

Software wise I use:
Nod32
comodo firewall
utorrent
peer guardian
7zip
office 2007
firefox + extensions
opera
photoshop cs2
premiere pro cs2
deamon tools
ccleaner
virtualbox
bluesoleil
visual studios 2005 & 2008
notepad++
poweriso
live messenger
fddshow
quicktime alternative
realtime alternative
autoGK - is there a 64-bit version of the same sort of software?

games i play are:
cod 4
virtua tennis 3
pes 08
Joint operatations.

Can you see any conflicts with software/hardware?

Thanks.
 
Don't bother with Comodo or PeerGuardian. The former is crap and the latter is useless.

Nod32 is also debatable. Although it does support Vista, do you really want that rubbish slowing your system down and not really doing anything for the clock cycles it uses?

Someone said PES is a bit unstable on Vista - don't know to what extent, perhaps have a Google around to see what other people think.

FFDShow/Quicktime/Realplayer etc - just use VLC. Which works very well on Vista.

Can't see a problem with anything else.
 
NathanE said:
Don't bother with Comodo or PeerGuardian. The former is crap and the latter is useless.

Nod32 is also debatable. Although it does support Vista, do you really want that rubbish slowing your system down and not really doing anything for the clock cycles it uses?

Someone said PES is a bit unstable on Vista - don't know to what extent, perhaps have a Google around to see what other people think.

FFDShow/Quicktime/Realplayer etc - just use VLC. Which works very well on Vista.

Can't see a problem with anything else.
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Thanks for the reply.

Hmm, I always thought Comodo was quite highly regarded, apart from the Defence+ thingy.

I also thought NOD32 was highly regarded, what virus scanner would you recommend then?

I shall google that - thanks.

I don't know what it is, but I prefer to use WMP for movies, so the codecs are what i am opting for, although, I always seem to install VLC, just incase a movie doesn't play :p
 
I would just add that before you buy, then visit each website for your Software and check for compatibilty notes. In most cases, there's just a quick patch or update.

A good tip is to download all the lastest versions of your software, patches and updates etc before you buy and install. Keep them on a external HD, disk, partition etc .. That way you have them to hand and you'd have done your homework before, rather than finding out issues later which is a pain.
 
Conrad11 said:
Thanks for the reply.

Hmm, I always thought Comodo was quite highly regarded, apart from the Defence+ thingy.

I also thought NOD32 was highly regarded, what virus scanner would you recommend then?
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I'm sure they are highly regarded but come on, you are a grown man now - you don't need these "Net Nanny" type of programs any more surely?

Vista is a very secure operating system. IE7's Protected Mode runs everything in a sandbox so it is the most secure browser now, bar none.

UAC also provides sandboxing for the rest of the OS.

Windows Firewall is also very good in Vista. Although do you really need it if you're behind a NAT router?
 
NathanE said:
I'm sure they are highly regarded but come on, you are a grown man now - you don't need these "Net Nanny" type of programs any more surely?

Vista is a very secure operating system. IE7's Protected Mode runs everything in a sandbox so it is the most secure browser now, bar none.

UAC also provides sandboxing for the rest of the OS.

Windows Firewall is also very good in Vista. Although do you really need it if you're behind a NAT router?
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When i was on XP i did use comodo firewall & their AntiVir
But have not felt the argue to do so with Vista 64 & don't use any 3rd party protection atm.
 
PES 2008 does work fine in Vista 64 (though the game itself I found very tedious with the Merseyside Red crap - sorry just bugs me when they don't have the proper names where as FIFA does but is too damn slow).

Most of the utilities you have listed will work fine. I'd personally use Windows inbuilt firewall and a different AV (I use Symantec Corporate) but apart from that you should be okay.


M.
 
Conrad11 said:
games i play are:
cod 4
virtua tennis 3
pes 08
Joint operatations.

Can you see any conflicts with software/hardware?

Thanks.
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I have all the games there and they work fine on Vista BUT PES 2008 doesnt work with Vista x64 and 4GB. Only works if you have 2GB or less:mad: Not sure if they have fixed it yet.
 
Cant see any issues other than ditch the bluetooth dongle. The Bluesoleil software is a rip off and will expect you to pay for the driver. It has far too many services as well.
 
Turophobic said:
Cant see any issues other than ditch the bluetooth dongle. The Bluesoleil software is a rip off and will expect you to pay for the driver. It has far too many services as well.
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Its free?


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Is it worth using 64bit versions of applications like Firefox and 7zip virtual dub etc....

Will there be any compatibility issues?

On the virtualdub website, it says this:

This version is compiled specifically for the 64-bit modes of the AMD Athlon 64, AMD Athlon FX, AMD Opteron, and Intel Xeon EM64T CPUs. You must have the x64 Extended (64-bit) version of Windows to run the 64-bit version of VirtualDub. You cannot run this version on a 32-bit version of Windows even if your CPU is 64-bit capable.
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...this will work with my Q6600 right?
 
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I didnt need to to install any drivers when i plugged my bluetooth dongle in with vista 64, i just pugged it in and it worked, I had to use that bluesoliel thing when i used the dongle in xp though, its serious bloatware
 
Jfan said:
I didnt need to to install any drivers when i plugged my bluetooth dongle in with vista 64, i just pugged it in and it worked, I had to use that bluesoliel thing when i used the dongle in xp though, its serious bloatware
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Hmm mine doesn't at the moment with Vista 32bit, I need the bluesoliel.

How do you pair and transfer files then? or does vista have native support?
 
m4cc45 said:
PES 2008 does work fine in Vista 64
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it sucks balls on vista32. i've had to resort to installing xp on another partition just so i can play it properly. :p

what bugs me me the most is that sometimes it will play ok - and other times it's a juddery mess. i don't think vista is the problem.... it's the shoddy shower of ******** at konami who i think are to blame. :mad: :D
 
marc2003 said:
it sucks balls on vista32. i've had to resort to installing xp on another partition just so i can play it properly. :p

what bugs me me the most is that sometimes it will play ok - and other times it's a juddery mess. i don't think vista is the problem.... it's the shoddy shower of ******** at konami who i think are to blame. :mad: :D
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I like you. You have clearly stated and well backed up views. :D
 
NathanE said:
I'm sure they are highly regarded but come on, you are a grown man now - you don't need these "Net Nanny" type of programs any more surely?
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A virus scanner is a lot more than a "net nanny", and assuming that viruses can only be introduced onto a system through the web browser is a dangerous view to have - it just takes someone lending you an infected USB drive or coming across an MP3 player shipped with a virus on it (good old Creative, some iPods too).

Even if Vista itself can't get infected (time will tell, hopefully lessons have been learnt since Blaster), you can still pass stuff onto other people. Do you really want to get a bunch of files from someone, not know they're infected, and then burn them to a disc to give to someone else? You'll be known as "the guy who broke my computer" for a while.

Windows has a lot to prove before I'll run it without antivirus. I'm far from a Microsoft hater, but I'm also no where near the platform's biggest fan. It comes down to trust, and I don't trust it yet.
 
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I'm having a similar 64-bit dilemma right now. If I go Vista do I stick with 32-bit to play it safe or go to 64-bit and risk god-knows-how-many incompatibility issues.
 
Caged said:
A virus scanner is a lot more than a "net nanny", and assuming that viruses can only be introduced onto a system through the web browser is a dangerous view to have - it just takes someone lending you an infected USB drive or coming across an MP3 player shipped with a virus on it (good old Creative, some iPods too).

Even if Vista itself can't get infected (time will tell, hopefully lessons have been learnt since Blaster), you can still pass stuff onto other people. Do you really want to get a bunch of files from someone, not know they're infected, and then burn them to a disc to give to someone else? You'll be known as "the guy who broke my computer" for a while.

Windows has a lot to prove before I'll run it without antivirus. I'm far from a Microsoft hater, but I'm also no where near the platform's biggest fan. It comes down to trust, and I don't trust it yet.
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Agreed - I'd always want to have a virus scanner, and Nod is certainly the most discreet and effective example I've across.
 
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