Keegan appointed new Newcastle manager, again.

I definately agree, and they are still not a big club IMO. They have a loyal large fanbase, but they are not a club who will attract champions league standard players. Owen is there, but remember he is only playing once every 2 months with his injuries !

12th richest club in the world last year, 50,000 fans whether we play like **** or not. We don't need to attract Champions League standard players because we aren't playing or contemplating playing in the Champions League.

If we got to the position where we would be challenging, we would be attracting those players.
 
But you know you are not a title contender?

You don't have the clout right?

We know were not a 4th place team, for a FACT.

We know though with a bit of luck, few signings we could be back were we belong, getting regularly into Europe, UEFA.

Few signings, possibly a different manager, Liverpool could possibly be league contenders, but the other 3 evolve so fast and keep doing so the chances of a league title are really no existent without some big changes.

Big changes could come for us in the future, and we could be CL players again, but that is something we can only dream about in the state.

Top half finish with progression this season is all i wanted, its what 95% of the fans wanted as well, its nothing stupid, its nothing out of our reach, and it should have happened.

Its easy to blame the fans, especially with the negative media coverage we get, problem is, no one ever speaks to the fans, only the muppets parked outside the ground peeved up on cheap cider.

So you're saying your happy with being a UEFA Cup team? I'd bet that a fair proportion of Newcastle fan's believe they should challenging for the CL spots, you said it yourself.

You're right about a few things with Liverpool, but our situation is different to yours. We don't think we deserve or have a right to win the league, but given our past success, it wouldn't come as a shock to many if we did.
 
I'm suprised, thought he'd of had longer. I don't know who can replace him?!

His tactical decsions did baffle me sometimes, playing so many players out of position, it was laughable to see the regular wingers Martins and Milner, on the wrong side constantly. Martins left footed on the right, Milner right footed on the left?? WTF.

Well martins is a striker for a start and didnt do any good at all playing where he was asked too , trying to play the bolton way but with the wrong type of player for that style wasnt going to work , newcastle was already a laughing stock to a lot of people and doing this wont help at all , get a new manager and give him 2 or 3 years at least , people say the toon fans expect too much but i disagree , playing fairly decent football and being a club that should be around the top 6 every year isnt expecting too much for a club newcastle's size .
 
Big fanbase? Apart from just in Newcastle do they have support anywhere else?

Big players? I can think of one.

Having a big stadium doesn't make you a big club, Sunderland for example.

A big club for me needs to have been consistently challenging for the big trophies, something which Newcastle have not.

No big players? Try your old hero, Micky Owen.
 
da_mic and Nitro are talking sense. dokko is mostly talking sense. Some of the rest of you are making laughable comments (both magpies and other supporters alike).

I can't really understand this and I would have given him until the end of the season but we don't know what has happened behind closed doors.

Panzer
 
Some of the performances under sam have been the worst i can remember in recent years,playing players in wrong positions and going to the likes of derby and playing for a draw?

Take a look at derby they are dead certs for going down with most prob the lowest tally ever at the end of the season,they so far have 7 points with 4 of them being taken from newcastle.
 
So you're saying your happy with being a UEFA Cup team? I'd bet that a fair proportion of Newcastle fan's believe they should challenging for the CL spots, you said it yourself.

You're right about a few things with Liverpool, but our situation is different to yours. We don't think we deserve or have a right to win the league, but given our past success, it wouldn't come as a shock to many if we did.

Then you'd be wrong. Read a Newcastle Forum or something man. 95% of us don't think that.
 
Some of the performances under sam have been the worst i can remember in recent years,playing players in wrong positions and going to the likes of derby and playing for a draw?

Take a look at derby they are dead certs for going down with most prob the lowest tally ever at the end of the season,they so far have 7 points with 4 of them being taken from newcastle.

It's true. Glen Roder's success rate was higher than Sam's! I didn't want to see him go at the time.

Panzer
 
da_mic and Nitro are talking sense. dokko is mostly talking sense. Some of the rest of you are making laughable comments (both magpies and other supporters alike).

Panzer

It's easy for someone to enter a thread posting this, how about you contest some of the points you are finding 'laughable'?
 
from a newcastle fan point of view I think this is completely barmy, as said we arn't going to be relegated this season without something going drastically wrong, a new manager won't win anything this season so why sack sam. WE NEED STABILITY, everyone already looks upon the toon managers job as a poisoned chalice. Mike Ashley seems to be a clever enough guy, so IMO he won't have sacked sam unless he has a verbal agreement with somebody else high profile, otherwise he is just plain stupid. We have a rough run of games coming up and needed leadership and stability, not another new manager. I'm not defending Big sam, I thought his tactics and decisions were questionable, but he needed time to build. I feel a little sorry for him really, It was Freddy Shepard who brought him here and obv promised him this and that, a large transfer kitty etc, but instead he got Mike Ashley who has given him funds but not a large amount he was expecting. Will add more later and my post may lack clarity and cohesion as I'm rambling

A good post. Sam wasn't going to get Newcastle relegated, unless the chairman has a good replacement lined up and has to move fast then the decision is a joke. The fans booing the team every week, and the players with big ego's are the ones at fault here. Who would want to take the reigns now? A big name manager? I doubt that very much. I think Shearer will be the only option soon, and imho a poor choice. He should have been assistant before even considering a manegerial role. Dont run before you can walk!
 
Its a shame, although I didn't expect them to be playing pretty football, I did expect Sam to steady a rocky ship and give them a solid base to improve upon..
 
It's easy for someone to enter a thread posting this, how about you contest some of the points you are finding 'laughable'?

It was easy. Both Nitro and da_mic more or less summed up my opinion on the matter so it seems a bit pointless typing it all out again.

I came into the thread late because I was out getting some exercise, it doesn't mean I can't contribute.

I thought the post about Alan Shearer being a good replacement was naive considering his lack of experience and I would hate for him to come to us and throw away the respect he has earned on Tyneside.

Your opinion of Newcastle fans seems to be based on the ramblings from the back pages of the red tops. Despite what you might have read in the papers (and what is quite clear from most of the magpies posting here) we don't believe we have some god given right to be title challengers.

Your posting style and comments seem to be quite defensive and aggressive. I think you've been taking some of the early comments a bit too personally.

I agree. I didn't say he wasn't.

But what has he done? What big stages has he played on? What has he won?

I hardly think that's relevant. He's loyal to the team and he likes living in Newcastle. The fact that he's stuck with us despite the lack of silverware doesn't stop him from being a damn good player. It's the same with Shearer. What did he win (apart from the title with Blackburn?). He stayed with us through loyalty and didn't win anything. Does that stop him from being a big name player? He didn't win anything with England but he was easily the best England striker while he was there.

Panzer
 
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