jamies fowl dinners

Mad_Jay · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:03

k3v said:
turkey twizzlers?

I used to love turkey twizzler day at school

Gutted ive missed this, was looking forward to it. Been watching that other program on BBC 3 all week.

k3v · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:09

channel 4+1

edit: ignore me, too late for the above.

chrispystix · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:14

I have two lovely chickens in the garden now that provide more than enough eggs for a family.

yipyipboo · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:18

very good program although I had to turn away when he stuck the knife in the chickens mouth :eek:

alexakasloth · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:25

chrispystix said:
I have two lovely chickens in the garden now that provide more than enough eggs for a family.

How many eggs a week do the two chickens lay?

al123 · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:28

$loth said:
How many eggs a week do the two chickens lay?

Depends on the breed and age of the birds.

alexakasloth · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:31

al123 said:
Depends on the breed and age of the birds.

That was really not helpful

al123 · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:32

If it’s a young bird of a similar breed to those used in the egg production industry roughly 1 egg per day.

D.P. · 11 Jan 2008 at 23:38

Posty said:
ever been in a greenhouse?

Correct. These cultivators are kept to within a tenth of 1 degree accuracy to maintain absolute optimal conditions. Perspex roof would complicate control methods and in the summer increase massively any cooling requirements. Whats the advanage when there is optimally ontrolled artificial light.

Cybermyk · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:13

I was amazed to hear the battery farmers only make 3p per bird comment. Assuming the profit is after paying for feed etc. it's still very low. They didn't mention how much they make with a free range bird though.

al123 · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:15

I thought a few pence, i was shocked people were saying £1. People need to get out of the city more I think.

xirokx · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:35

i know how you feel, im thinking of becoming a vegeterian, those poor chickens...did you see those lovely little chicks...

cant believe I have been involved but a case of out of sight out of mind and never thought about it for 1 sec until now...

trouble is even if they were free range etc, i would still feel guilty , i mean what gives us the right to lord it over mother nature, to get pleasure out of eating someone...

AFAIK I dont see any difference then if it were humans on that show...murder is murder no matter how to dress it up..

Cybermyk · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:40

al123 said:
I thought a few pence, i was shocked people were saying £1. People need to get out of the city more I think.

Yes £1 sounds high but city style economics tells me that to earn say £15k per year at 3p a bird, the farmer would have to sell 525,000 chickens. Say it cost them £15k (no basis for this amount) to run the farm too that's over a million birds a year.

One farmer one million birds+ a year just for him to live. he would have to have over 100,000 birds on the go at any one time based on the 35 day cycle. No days off no holidays...

This can't be done unless you have acres of shed space an millions upon millions of birds and staff paid the same as the birds (chickenfeed).

That isn't a farm it's a concentration camp.

Cybermyk · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:43

xirokx said:
i know how you feel, im thinking of becoming a vegeterian, those poor chickens...did you see those lovely little chicks...

I would rather see proper farms and well kept livestock bred for dairy and meat than no animals in the countryside.

al123 · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:44

Cybermyk said:
snip

Exactly therefore to produce all the chickens in the UK to free range standards the price would have to be much higher in the supermarket. To be blunt that just isn’t going to happen.

xirokx · 12 Jan 2008 at 00:50

That isn't a farm it's a concentration camp

this man speaks the truth...

difference is cuz its animals and we love to eat em WE get away with it.....can you imagine if it was humans...you think of the slave trade and persecution of the jews how long it was and it is still spoken of today...

who speaks for the animals that are killed for our pleasure...

how can you even get satisfaction after watching that show and then having to eat chicken the next day...how the hell did the ppl there digest their food...

Cob · 12 Jan 2008 at 01:00

Because it tastes great.

Cybermyk · 12 Jan 2008 at 01:03

xirokx said:
snip

I wouldn't go that far, as I hinted at above, if we didn't eat animals or use them for dairy they would simply become a nuisance to crop farmers. They would become rare and ultimately extinct.

I really don't want that to happen and I do enjoy meat... properly reared, healthy and happy meat.

Gackt · 12 Jan 2008 at 09:07

That show was enlightening - it is hard not to buy the cheap stuff...it's cheap! I've always strived for Organic etc, but I think after seeing that last night, I'm going to avoid the cheap alternatives altogether.

kinetic747 · 12 Jan 2008 at 09:20

The prog was very educational but whether it'll make much difference to the masses I doubt it. I bought a box of free range eggs last week from Tesco, the one's where they are advertized as running around a farmyard and they were double the price of the usual eggs I buy. I must admit it made me feel better and luckily I can afford it but I think I'll be looking to buy an egg somewhere inbetween on my next visit. I agree with Gackt though about avoiding the value stuff completely.