Ebay help..UnVerified paypal buyer

And did they show you the warrant? Or did they just show up, threaten your brother and he handed over the cash?

Paypal are like TV Licensing. They have a big bark but no bite.

TV Licensing don't quite have as much bite as they should do.
It's a shame, but we can only hope that changes at some point in the future.
However to say they have no bite is a little bit silly.
So they knock on your door and you don't have a license.
If it isn't just the usual internet bravado and you really do just "shut the door in their face" they can and will get a warrant.
All they have to prove to a court is reasonable idea you're using an unlicensed television and they will get their warrant.

Paypal make their terms & conditions quite clear.
If you end up with a negative balance they will chase you for it.
Now you've really got two choices, Jez's brother appears to have taken the more sensible one.
That is - he has paid what he owes.
It doesn't matter what he feels over it, we can all see it isn't exactly fair, however he took the chance, it back-fired however he still owned Paypal money.
He paid what he owed - problem now over.

Of course he could have taken the other option.
Waited until Paypal had sold the debt to a debt collection agency.
Within a few days they would have written and already the amount you owe would have gone up.
Each time you didn't pay and each time the bailiffs turned up a few more £ would have been added to the amount owed.
At no point are the baliffs going to go away - they have bought the legitimate debt and they are going to get it.
End result - you eventually end up paying back a lot more than the original amount you owed, or you end up with CCJ's or you end up in court.

Why people don't take terms & conditions and contracts seriously I don't know.
If the T&C's were unfair or a contract/agreement illegal then I could understand.
However when everything is above board and spelt out to you then no matter how upset you get or how wrong you feel it is if everything goes wrong, you are still tied to your agreement.
 
Why people don't take terms & conditions and contracts seriously I don't know.
If the T&C's were unfair or a contract/agreement illegal then I could understand.
However when everything is above board and spelt out to you then no matter how upset you get or how wrong you feel it is if everything goes wrong, you are still tied to your agreement.

I'm going to stop you right there.

At what point is being diddled out of nearly £400 by a company that doesn't take it's service or customers seriously considered "fair"?

As i've said before, I don't have a problem with Paypal trying to combat fraud, in fact i'm all for it. What I do have a massive problem with is them making it oh-so-easy for the scammers to do.

And, whilst I don't have a Paypal account myself, I have spoken to people who have stood their ground, and Paypal or the debt collectors have had to back down. They can't force their way in, and I strongly doubt any court in the land would enforce the debt.

The more people give in to them, the more they'll just carry on.
 
IThe more people give in to them, the more they'll just carry on.

Thats exactly right, you get away with it once, you try your luck...

The thing is, while theres a way scam, people are going to do it, simple, some people cant earn a legit living, due to personal choice, so they do it illagelly, eg benifit spongers.

Im all up for Paypal stopping fraud, but when it comes to ripping you off, and you know 110% your right, they why not fight your corner, people think 'oh no, courts, debt collectors' they dont relise how much it would cost for a certain company to pay for any civil proceeding be it debt collectors or a court summons, nothing comes free to anyone, not even the company taking action get it free, they may claim it back, but its a 50/50 chance in mossts cases.
 
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