To be honest it just sounds completely logical to me to do as i said, but other people use different ways, and other instructors do teach you their own methods.
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To be honest it just sounds completely logical to me to do as i said, but other people use different ways, and other instructors do teach you their own methods.
I did not say you should not indicate to stop or park neccesarily. But that you should not indicate to reverse.
If you use your hazards people start looking for a problem or accident as thats what they are for.
If you are driving safely and you need to parrellel park in a gap how fast in the above scenario are you going to stop? Will you be driving slow enough so you can safely look for a gao and then gentle brake so the drivers behind can see the signal that is your BRAKE lights?
Then once you stop just past the gap and select reverse what do you think the drivers behind will expect you to do? I know I'd be looking for the car in front to parrellel park.
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it is silly NOT to indicate imo.
i always indicate when reversing parallel parking into a space
as mrk said above, if i see someone with reverse lights and no indicators, i assume they are going in a straight line. if they then go turn, i'd be annoyed
i have to disagree with you dashik.
i can't see how indicators and reverse lights give mixed signals.
reverse lights and indicators means, "oh look, he's reversing and he's going left/right"
mixed signals is someone have their reverse lights on while moving forwards!
What does it matter which way he's going?
Next you will try and tell me that flashing the headlights mean you go first etc.
He should not be moving unless you have stopped behind him. IF theres not enough room for you to pass safely then should the other driver be reversing in the first place?
As for his signalling when reversing when you actually know what you are talking about come back. Go and read 'Driving the Essential skills' and then tell me how you should do this.
Lets be clear about this. If you are reverseing then you do so when there are no other road users present or they have clearly stopped and are waiting. (Eye contact with other drivers).
At this point if theres somebody waiting then how is a signal of benifit to them? (Other then the reversing lights)
i forgot you are a driving instructor.. i'm not going to win this one
as for eye contact with the driver.. what?
if i'm parallel parking and i have to reverse into the space, i expect the driver behind me to stop and let me in. i'll start going into the space and just check to see if the car behind has stopped.. i'm in front of him, therefore i have priority
i think we'll just have to agree to disagree..
not indicating while reversing still sounds bizarre to me
next you're going to say that you should always do that stupid thing when turning the wheel - bringing your hands to the top, etc..
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You indicate when you're pulling up, but you aren't meant to indicate while reversing. It should be fairly obvious what your intentions are anyway, as long as you're not planning to reverse all the way back up the road in the wrong direction.
As for reversing around the corner, I wasn't told to stop all of those times, just once to check after you've pulled up past the junction, and then just after your finished. As long as you go slowly and keep checking what's happening around you then that was fine. Might have changed though, take the ADI's advice.
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Dashik, been meaning to ask someone in the know about this:
If a car is parked on your side of the road and you need to go into the oncoming lane to get round it, do you indicate into that lane and then do you indicate back into your own lane?
If a car is parked on your side of the road and you need to go into the oncoming lane to get round it, do you indicate into that lane and then do you indicate back into your own lane?
i forgot you are a driving instructor.. i'm not going to win this one
as for eye contact with the driver.. what?
if i'm parallel parking and i have to reverse into the space, i expect the driver behind me to stop and let me in. i'll start going into the space and just check to see if the car behind has stopped.. i'm in front of him, therefore i have priority
i think we'll just have to agree to disagree..
not indicating while reversing still sounds bizarre to me
next you're going to say that you should always do that stupid thing when turning the wheel - bringing your hands to the top, etc..
Obviously you seem to have a stange grip on this topic. YOU DO NOT HAVE PRIORITY WHEN REVERSING AT ANY TIME. is that clear?
Now having said that if its a narrow and busy street not wide enough for following drivers to pass then yes generally the driver behind has to wait while you park. But you still have to make sure hes stopped.
It can sound as bizzare as you like but you do not need to signal when reversing.
Oh and as for push pull steering it is the correct method to ensure control. Whats wrong with actually having a high standard of driving skills. The correct ones mind not the ideas you seem to support! However that does not make it wrong to cross your hands, its just theres a larger risk if something happens and you need to adjust your steering.
As always it depends.
If theres traffic behind and they are very close then I might indicate to move across but I would not indicate to move back in. The following driver should realise that you are needing to move back in and not stay out on the wrong side of the road. I would however check my interior and left mirror to make sure the stationary car had not moved off while I was passing.
Generally though I would not indicate to pass in this situation.
If theres somebody who will benift from your signal as you pull up then yes. Otherwise spot on!
Let him drive how he thinks is correct, when he fails, he can come back here and have us all look smug and then have us laugh and point 
We know were right, Dashik works for ADI, DanMc07 has passed not long ago, and imlearning, 3 people who are in different situations, but all to do with the start of your driving career, so why not listen to us?
Indicate to pull in, once pulled in cancle the indicator, go straight to the reverse gear as to light up your rear reverse light, and then start to reverse when safe to do so.
Any cars behind you will wait to see what your doing if not already gone past, once they see the light, they will go round, therefore leaving you te space to do your manouver.
We know were right, Dashik works for ADI, DanMc07 has passed not long ago, and imlearning, 3 people who are in different situations, but all to do with the start of your driving career, so why not listen to us?
Indicate to pull in, once pulled in cancle the indicator, go straight to the reverse gear as to light up your rear reverse light, and then start to reverse when safe to do so.
Any cars behind you will wait to see what your doing if not already gone past, once they see the light, they will go round, therefore leaving you te space to do your manouver.
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I saw ADI in your profile and assumed what you saw, kind of a little guess but you've cleared this up for me.
Plus, with the comment you left, i thought that you may be a full time instructor. Seemed to speak like one.
Let him drive how he thinks is correct, when he fails, he can come back here and have us all look smug and then have us laugh and point
fail what? i've been driving for over six years
when i get busted by the cops for indicating while reversing i'll let you know
anyway, fair enough Dashik, seeing as you are an ADI you probably know what you are talking about..
although this topic is about learning to drive and thus my comments weren't very helpful.
still don't agree though ¬_¬
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I have been told not to signal whilst reversing. I do pull up using a signal though.
For left reverse i look around,start to move back whilst looking out the rear window....as the end of the corner comes into the nearside rear window i look around again before applying steering...i keep the steering the same till i can see if i'm paralell to the kerb and adjust my steering/distance in the time i have left.
I failed my mock test for not reversing right back for the second time on a turn in the road,it was narrow and i wasn't getting round in 3 so i only reversed enough for me to pull away but he said that was bad.
On the parralel park i was told to stop as soon as i was straight on with the other car after reversing. I pull up with my wing mirror level with the bonnet/boot of the other car,reverse till we are equal and apply 1 full turn,onec the kerb is out the back window take the turn off until the passenger side door handle is sitting above the car and put one full turn right on.
For left reverse i look around,start to move back whilst looking out the rear window....as the end of the corner comes into the nearside rear window i look around again before applying steering...i keep the steering the same till i can see if i'm paralell to the kerb and adjust my steering/distance in the time i have left.
I failed my mock test for not reversing right back for the second time on a turn in the road,it was narrow and i wasn't getting round in 3 so i only reversed enough for me to pull away but he said that was bad.
On the parralel park i was told to stop as soon as i was straight on with the other car after reversing. I pull up with my wing mirror level with the bonnet/boot of the other car,reverse till we are equal and apply 1 full turn,onec the kerb is out the back window take the turn off until the passenger side door handle is sitting above the car and put one full turn right on.
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