Vista successor in 2009

So you think it's good that Apple release what would considered to be a service pack in the MS eco system and charge for it? That's amazing customer service i'd best buy a Mac!
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Yet with MS; 6 years later an OS which appears to be almost the same apart from a crap interface and stupid pointless features and really doesn't give anything new to your normal user. Wow that's amazing customer service, I better go out and buy Vista Ultimate Edition!!1111.

Disclaimer: Vista's technical improvements (kernel etc) certainly are a good thing though, but generally the average user won't notice these.
 
FirebarUK said:
Disclaimer: Vista's technical improvements (kernel etc) certainly are a good thing though, but generally the average user won't notice these.
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I'd argue its a good thing that the average user won't notice it though. A lot of the improvements are security related, and so if a user noticed it, it's generally becuase of a security breech.

Burnsy
 
chesterstu said:
So you think it's good that Apple release what would considered to be a service pack in the MS eco system and charge for it? That's amazing customer service i'd best buy a Mac!
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If a system was as stable and as good as a mac I would certainly buy these updates yes.

Andr3w1984
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Great idea. Microsoft shouldn't change anything; XP was a great OS, so why make changes. Lets keep it for another 6 years or even more. We don't need new technologies or innovations, it worked fine and you know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

:rolleyes:

Burnsy
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If this thread is true alright, why should customers have costs to keep upgrading over and over again for something just not worth having. Microsoft only care about money. XP is fine and still is. Probably till they stop releasing the hotfixes for the os.

Yeh if it aint broke (XP) don't fix it (Upgrade to Vista). hmmm different opinions I see. Why didn't they just enhance XP?... It's all about the $$$.

EDIT: Thought someone had posted, sorry about double post.
Andr3w1984
 
andr3w1984 said:
If a system was as stable and as good as a mac I would certainly buy these updates yes.

Andr3w1984
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I love that 'Stable' where is from that Vista isn't stable? I've been running vista for over a year and can't remember it ever crashing without me doing something momumently stupid.

It is fairly common for Lepoard to crash or cause apps to run slowly from what i have read on the blogsphere recently. Many commenters even saying Leopard is a step backwards
 
chesterstu said:
I love that 'Stable' where is from that Vista isn't stable?
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Many commenters even saying Leopard is a step backwards
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I'm not talking about what my system is like or your system. I am on about a global scale with every home user that has Vista. I am not, I repeat NOT slating Vista, I am not slating mac, I am not slating Linux, I am commenting on a wide scale not a technical scale. The people who can fix problems or look it up it's fine but the people who are home users who don't have a clue... that is another story and that's my point I am making.

Burnsy2023 said:
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It makes me laugh that you think Apple isn't out to do the same though.
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Yes, that's all businesses do $$$. I think a lot of mac users get less problems than a windows user. (I am not once again I repeat not on about technical users, I am on about home users who ain't sure whats what).

Technology is gettin far too complicated for the average home user people who don't work in IT for example, who need to use a system for office work e.t.c.

If this so call 'Windows 7' is released. This is ANOTHER OS that has to be installed, rolled out, maintained, learned e.t.c instead of them just fixing the current problems they have on the current os.


Andr3w1984
 
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andr3w1984 said:
If this thread is true alright, why should customers have costs to keep upgrading over and over again for something just not worth having. Microsoft only care about money. XP is fine and still is. Probably till they stop releasing the hotfixes for the os.

Yeh if it aint broke (XP) don't fix it (Upgrade to Vista). hmmm different opinions I see. Why didn't they just enhance XP?... It's all about the $$$.

EDIT: Thought someone had posted, sorry about double post.
Andr3w1984
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XP is broken in a variety of ways under the hood, many of which have been fixed in Vista. You can't 'enhance' things that need fundamental rewrites.
 
Dolph said:
XP is broken in a variety of ways under the hood, many of which have been fixed in Vista. You can't 'enhance' things that need fundamental rewrites.
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So Microsoft keep releasing broken OS's then? Great.. :D

Andr3w1984
 
Dolph said:
So do Apple, and we won't even start on Linux :D
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So why buy a broken OS?

Burnsy2023 said:
It's not broken, it's a feature

Burnsy
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So if it is a feature why can't they intergrate it into XP then?

Dolph said:
Ahhh, the Nokia approach
"Random reboots are a feature to prevent your phone crashing..."
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As with every technology responce. A reboot will usually solve a lot of issues. Like I said in my above post, technology is becoming such a headache for all home users including most technical users. They are just making OS's to confuse the hell out of everybody and to make cash fast.

Andr3w1984
 
NathanE how is that? I am talking about them releasing another os after they ain't even solved the issues they currently have. This is very bad practice for Microsoft. Talk about pathetic :rolleyes:

Andr3w1984
 
andr3w1984 said:
NathanE how is that? I am talking about them releasing another os after they ain't even solved the issues they currently have. This is very bad practice for Microsoft. Talk about pathetic :rolleyes:

Andr3w1984
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Take it from some who works developing software professionally there is no such thing as a perfect, bug free piece of software. There is a maths equation to prove this and no one, not even the venerable Apple, are immune from it
 
chesterstu said:
Take it from some who works developing software professionally there is no such thing as a perfect, bug free piece of software. There is a maths equation to prove this and no one, not even the venerable Apple, are immune from it
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You can make (as good as) bug free software using formal methods, but it's expensive and extremely time consuming, especially on anything more complex then a very simple system.

Burnsy
 
Ahh yes formal methods my most hated of any module I did at uni. I would argue that it isn't bug free as such but maps on to the customers requirements more completely
 
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