Teen Suicides
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To be honest , I can hold my hand up and say , I have never, ever felt that life isn't worth living. And I have never, ever even thought about ending it prematurely. But I can understand why people would think it, and what brings them to that point.
Maybe thats just me.
And, as was pointed out. Irrational thinking has a major part to play in it. Whether that be due to mental problems, drink or drugs. There is always a starting point for the downward spiral into dispair.... and it usually boils down to depression.
And if you are a male, and try to express your feelings to friends - you are laughed at, or told to get a grip and sort your head out/ridiculed by friends/family and loved ones - when you could have serious problems that really do need looked at.
Maybe thats just me.
And, as was pointed out. Irrational thinking has a major part to play in it. Whether that be due to mental problems, drink or drugs. There is always a starting point for the downward spiral into dispair.... and it usually boils down to depression.
And if you are a male, and try to express your feelings to friends - you are laughed at, or told to get a grip and sort your head out/ridiculed by friends/family and loved ones - when you could have serious problems that really do need looked at.
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Not all suicides are wholly intrinsic, in fact I'd argue closer to the other side of the scale.
Top selling drug linked to suicide risk
FDA Anti-depressant suicide warning
Prozac 'may encourage suicide'
Drug 'can trigger suicide in adults'
Threat of suicide leads to ban of major antidepressants for children
Seroxat and Prozac 'can make people homicidal'
Britain becomes a Prozac nation
31 million prescriptions. Now are there really that many people needing SSRIs or is the situation the other way around, that SSRIs do more harm than good?
I read that post, sat for a while and tbh i didn't know how to reply without being offensive.
The level of intelligence on display in some peoples posts is just diabolical.
Do you have any idea what drives people to this?? Obviously not because you have probably been in an enviroment that has never given you constant abuse of the mind.
Oh how your tune would change if you went through what some people go through
EDIT: Infact, these websites are a prime example of abuse of the mind. Young people that are weak minded are very impressionable and this just pushes them over the edge (no pun intended!) so to speak.
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Glad to hear he's getting better. I'm sure you do this allready but just make sure you let him know you are there for him allways and that he can say anything to you no matter what the subject may be because it sounds like a call for help. All the best and good luck for the future
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I disagree, but each case is different of course.
Sometime being around people is the last thing you want, those loved ones can make you feel worse, yeah I been in this situation so I can comment on the reality of it.
I took about 100 Tranquilizers that my girlfriend at the time had for backpain after an accident she was in, I was going through a pretty rough period of about 18 months in my early 20's, she found me passed out and the box next to me, I woke (meaning I was aware of where I was) up in the hostpital 2 days later, they pumped my stomach and gave me this stuff that was basically charcoal in water form so I would throw up.
If I had been left for about an hour longer I would not be here now.
My situation didnt get any better and I had more thoughts of how to do it again over the course of a few months, I moved back in with my parents at this time and they just didnt understand, thats probably to do with me not being able to talk about anything...
The thing that helped point me in the direction of stopping feeling sorry for myself and get a grip was....
My dog, when I moved back home, whenever I felt as low as it gets he always seemed to come and see me, for 3 or 4 months he never left my side and I knew that if I did try again I would miss him, from then on I got better, my perspective on everything changed.
Pretty heavy story for OcUK but hey..
I disagree, but each case is different of course.
Sometime being around people is the last thing you want, those loved ones can make you feel worse, yeah I been in this situation so I can comment on the reality of it.
I took about 100 Tranquilizers that my girlfriend at the time had for backpain after an accident she was in, I was going through a pretty rough period of about 18 months in my early 20's, she found me passed out and the box next to me, I woke (meaning I was aware of where I was) up in the hostpital 2 days later, they pumped my stomach and gave me this stuff that was basically charcoal in water form so I would throw up.
If I had been left for about an hour longer I would not be here now.
My situation didnt get any better and I had more thoughts of how to do it again over the course of a few months, I moved back in with my parents at this time and they just didnt understand, thats probably to do with me not being able to talk about anything...
The thing that helped point me in the direction of stopping feeling sorry for myself and get a grip was....
My dog, when I moved back home, whenever I felt as low as it gets he always seemed to come and see me, for 3 or 4 months he never left my side and I knew that if I did try again I would miss him, from then on I got better, my perspective on everything changed.
Pretty heavy story for OcUK but hey..
I'm not going to ask what your situation was, nor do I wan't to know, but surely there must have been something you could do to change it?
That's the thing about suicide I don't get, the 'no way out' part. In my eyes, there's always something I could be doing to either change where I am or the state of mind that I'm in.
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I did change it, realising that there was just more then me and my "problems" in this world put stuff in perspective, I stopped feeling sorry for myself and got on with my life.
Thinking about suicide is 1 thing, doing it takes serious bottle, its easier to look at the negative in your situation and sit in it than it is to do something about it.
And when you want to its not that hard doing anything about it!!
Thinking about suicide is 1 thing, doing it takes serious bottle, its easier to look at the negative in your situation and sit in it than it is to do something about it.
And when you want to its not that hard doing anything about it!!
Have you ever read Neitzsche? It's not exactly how I'd say... optimistic. Perhaps you should keep those books out of arm's reach for the time being?
I think thats the biggest problem!
So does Ron L. Hubbard, what's your point?
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Just a quick point, the charcoal was given to you to asborb toxins, not make you throw up
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Some good discussion guys and sorry to hear about those people who have personal experience. I have myself been suffering from clinical depression and anxiety/panic disorder for the last 18 months and there is a huge difference from just being 'a bit down'.
Just a couple of points;
1) People have been talking about EMO but none of these kids in Wales look or seem like emos at all - they just seem like average teenagers. EMO seems to be more about image and standing around the high street with your mates all wearing the same clothes - do emo's actually commit suicide on any scale?
2) Someone mentioned this being a Western thing, but as far as I know Japan (a truly Eastern culture) has a massive suicide rate (due to the ridiculous work culture).
Just a couple of points;
1) People have been talking about EMO but none of these kids in Wales look or seem like emos at all - they just seem like average teenagers. EMO seems to be more about image and standing around the high street with your mates all wearing the same clothes - do emo's actually commit suicide on any scale?
2) Someone mentioned this being a Western thing, but as far as I know Japan (a truly Eastern culture) has a massive suicide rate (due to the ridiculous work culture).
they have a massive failure rate and consider cutting across your wrists then ringing someone etc as an attempt. Some of the people on the emo corner place where saying they had 7 attempts etc, if you fail to kill yourself 7 times your either paralysed from the eyes down or a muppet.
Or its the internet
"IM GOING TO END IT ALL< GOODBY< SERIOUS NOW"
30mins later, posts in the which boy is the hottest thread...
Emo's really are thie biggest faliure of any clique :/