Who said X48 would be no better than X38 Read on!!

Who said X48 would be no better than X38 Read on!!

I did and it would look like I'm right.
Even the link you provided starts with "X38 owners will see no compelling reason to upgrade"

Nobody said X48 wouldn't be a good chipset, however as an "evolution" to X38 it isn't.
If your buying now then the logical choices would be X48 if money is no object, X38 if you want similar performance (but probably lower prices as retailers get rid of stock ready for X48) or P35 for budget.
If you're running X38 or P35 now, you may as well wait for P45.
 
Sylver123 said:
I hope im not looking like a spammer with all these questions, but, I take it, to benefit from DDR3 performance wise over DDR2 is to get DDR3 rated at PC14400-1800MHz speeds, something like this one?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-095-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=923
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Yea thats the ticket, you could go for 1600 DDR3 if price was at a premium but I wouldnt , check this out for more info on DDR3

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3121&p=1

stoofa said:
Who said X48 would be no better than X38 Read on!!

I did and it would look like I'm right.
Even the link you provided starts with "X38 owners will see no compelling reason to upgrade"

Nobody said X48 wouldn't be a good chipset, however as an "evolution" to X38 it isn't.
If your buying now then the logical choices would be X48 if money is no object, X38 if you want similar performance (but probably lower prices as retailers get rid of stock ready for X48) or P35 for budget.
If you're running X38 or P35 now, you may as well wait for P45.
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I agree I'm not advocating a switch from X38 soley to X48, but if your looking to buy a new board then X48 will probably fit the bill. Trouble is the SE went ELI quickly I think the Air cooled will as some suppliers have no stock.
 
TheBiznes said:
but before long say 6 months they probably drop DDR2 all together on new boards.
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i doubt that very much, the DDR2 user base is just far too large to ignore atm, if they drop DDR2 support on new boards within say 12 - 18 months frankly ide be amazed.
 
VoG said:
i doubt that very much, the DDR2 user base is just far too large to ignore atm, if they drop DDR2 support on new boards within say 12 - 18 months frankly ide be amazed.
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The next Intel architecture due out at the end of this year will most likely be DDR3 only.
 
Cob said:
The next Intel architecture due out at the end of this year will most likely be DDR3 only.
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As I said progress as usual well time to make more money out of us, but in 6 months to a year there will be no more new DDR2 boards. They are just cushioning the blow at the minute like they have done in the past.
 
Of course, its arguably pointless buying DDR3 boards atm, because you'll need a new one for Nehalem; by which time DDR3 prices will have dropped. This has all been said before, but it really is a waste of time spending hundreds extra on pointless new tech. Native Quad and Octo-core will make proper widespread use of DDR3's bandwidth, until then though why bother?
 
So if we buy a DDR3 Motherboard system today, and when Intel releases there Nehalem next year, we should only need the new Motherboard+CPU, and the DDR3 Memory we already have should work ok?
 
Sylver123 said:
So if we buy a DDR3 Motherboard system today, and when Intel releases there Nehalem next year, we should only need the new Motherboard+CPU, and the DDR3 Memory we already have should work ok?
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It should do yes, as i cant imagine there being massive leaps forward in speed from what we have now. However, as is the case with RAM, when the Nehalem chips come out, DDR3 latency may have (and hopefully should have) dropped, as was the case with DDR2.
 
The problem im in right now is, I have been buying lots of new games but my current system, witch is a old Intel P4 Prescott 3.20E GHz 800FSB 1MB, isn`t up to the task of running these new game, and therefore need a new system. I can’t wait for Nehalem and I don't want to buy a low end system for now. I have the money to buy a high end system, so why not spend it? Like people have said before, there will always be something newer, better and much faster around the corner.
 
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For the OP, and anyone else pulled in by the hype:

Basically they are saying that a BIOS option is making this board the board to have. Which means, the X38 could quite easily have this feature implemented. This does not all of a sudden make the X48 the wonder board that everyone and his dog has been waiting for, but makes it an extra tweak that currently doesn't seem to be on X38 Bios's.

Basically, next time, please read what the article says rather than posting a misleading thread.

(and yes, I read the article the day before the thread was posted).

For the record, I don't think anyone could say the X48 boards are "no better than X38's" since they X48 chipsets are effectively cherry picked/better quality X38 chipsets. So yes they are better, but only in the sense that they will prob run cooler (need less voltage) and be able to be pushed a bit further. But then, everyone pretty much knew that already....

Matthew
 
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Scougar said:
For the OP, and anyone else pulled in by the hype:

Basically they are saying that a BIOS option is making this board the board to have. Which means, the X38 could quite easily have this feature implemented. This does not all of a sudden make the X48 the wonder board that everyone and his dog has been waiting for, but makes it an extra tweak that currently doesn't seem to be on X38 Bios's.

Basically, next time, please read what the article says rather than posting a misleading thread.

(and yes, I read the article the day before the thread was posted).

For the record, I don't think anyone could say the X48 boards are "no better than X38's" since they X48 chipsets are effectively cherry picked/better quality X38 chipsets. So yes they are better, but only in the sense that they will prob run cooler (need less voltage) and be able to be pushed a bit further. But then, everyone pretty much knew that already....

Matthew
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You can do the same sorta tweak in windows xp32 which I have been doing for a while now. Its called memset and it allows tweaking the Performance Level (which I think you will find is Trd as quoted in the review).

If you lower the performance by usually 1 level it reduces the latency and enables a bit more write and read speeds as viewed through Everest.

The trouble is these settings are intialised at startup and at present do not work on a 64 bit os. So having this feature in the bios is a welcome addition.

My hope is that with the fsb offically supported by intel for their next gen processors, unlike x38 which in the packaging etc hints at being 1600 ready. Which it can do mine was at 1800 all time. Hopefully the new NB will allow for higher fsb with quads 475 to at least 500. The current x38 with quads seems to reach a barrier at the min.
Scougar said:
For the OP, and anyone else pulled in by the hype:
Basically, next time, please read what the article says rather than posting a misleading thread.
Matthew
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Bringing up a thread like this brings out discussion, and raises interesting points who are you to vet what is or isnt raised here BTW.
 
I'm not vetting anything, I'm not a mod/don. I'm saying it was an over-the-top post as it doesn't purely apply to the X48 chipset. The X38 is identical except in quality selected, and while it was worth pointing out the post, it's not as if "OMFG I TOLD YOU SO, X48 IS UBER" or anything. It's just a bios setting and could EASILY be implemented on X38 as well. No doubt this setting could be issued on a whole host of chipsets/bios's, if not all.

So yeah, the thread does bring out discussion, and I was discussing it. If I don't like the way it's put across, I can discuss it. Don't get me wrong, it's good feature to have, but it does not suddenly make the X48 chipset worth buying over the X38. Cooler temps and higher fsb will sell that on it's own.

Perhaps I'm the only one that thinks like that? I like to keep things in context.

Matthew
 
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