I think you need to read some of my posts, and probably some of your own as well. To say I have no care for anyone else in the world is just a bit too big of a jump in my opinion. You say you're angry, so that's fine, but I feel I am entitled to try and defend myself whether that be in person, on this forum or in the courts.
who states that THE DEFENDANT
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i've gone silly speeds before in a residential area, as i'm sure a lot of people on these forums have
keates, you're a fool and i'm sure you'll accept that.
plead guilty, accept all that's coming your way and don't drive like an idiot in future.
as interested as i am in the speeds and reasons for him going 60+ in a 30, it really is none our business. he has no reason to tell us
keates, you're a fool and i'm sure you'll accept that.
plead guilty, accept all that's coming your way and don't drive like an idiot in future.
as interested as i am in the speeds and reasons for him going 60+ in a 30, it really is none our business. he has no reason to tell us
So what is your defense then for doing over double the limit in a 30 zone?
It can only be one of:
"the road was clear"
"i know the area well"
"the conditions were good"
"i drive a beemer with DSC"
None of which will pass in court nor with pretty much anyone. Speeding substantially through a 30 zone is just reckless and usually dangerous, no matter which way you look at it.
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Yet he has reason to post to the internet that he has a summons?
Not saying he shouldn't have done that but after he has posted that, we are going to want to know!
he can post whatever he likes. it works as a warning to the rest of us. speed and you'll get shafted. you have enough information to make up your mind on the summons
i've probably gone near double the limit in a 30 before, and it was a stupid thing to do, but i don't feel i have to explain it to anybody
although if you want to know, my logic was "**** it, let's floor it"
as i'm sure his was
i've probably gone near double the limit in a 30 before, and it was a stupid thing to do, but i don't feel i have to explain it to anybody
although if you want to know, my logic was "**** it, let's floor it"
as i'm sure his was
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That is very true, but he is going to have to expect we will be curious to know the exact speed that he did, it is a natural reaction to hearing something vague (doing in excess of 60mph) and wanting to know more.
If he did give the reason for doin the speed as 'I have a Beamer with DSC' he should get a medal
.It has definitely been very insightful reading this thread, but does confirm to me again why young person's insurance is so high. Although, thankfully, no-one was hurt during this, shall we call it, 'escapade', on another day it could have ended in tears with insurance companies getting involved etc.
I am not saying i am an angel on the road, but am quite glad that i passed my test when i did (age 22) and so had matured a bit more than if i had passed my test at 17, as i know from experience with some of my mates, they think that it is clever to drive like a maniac sometimes.
i think a lot of us would own up to going a bit nuts from time to time, ill prolly be going out later tonight soley to do that, but itll be 1am ish and on a quiet b road
unfortunately, this whole PMK thing gives anyone who is into cars a bad name. congratulations, as if the local papers and anti car nazis didnt have enough ammo
unfortunately, this whole PMK thing gives anyone who is into cars a bad name. congratulations, as if the local papers and anti car nazis didnt have enough ammo
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COOL!
Being 21 and driving a 3l beemer is idiotic enough.
The only real reason i would ever drive at that speed in an area like that would be for a life or death situation, going to hospital with someone else etc etc etc.
Just learn from this, go there take it on the chin and grow up. Driving like a **** isn't cool and can't be justified by 'i know the area, road was clear, i have new michelins, and have DSC,ABS,FFS,LOL,ABCDEFG'. You seem to be the perfect example of why an average youngish bloke should not be allowed to drive a car like this. Right enough of my handbag, there are plenty of other worse drivers out there, many i see everyday with their lexus lighted + alloyed up vtrs, and 306s, who are just downright cocky and dangerous.
no idea if anybodys commented on this and cba to read all 4 pages, but OP if your reading this he's got a point
When i got caught at 107 on the motrway one of the reasons i only get a 28 day ban and a £70 despit already having 6 points on my license was because the clerk of the court asked the magistrates to take account of the fact "that i had the decency to turn up today and admit his mistake"
word for word what was said. They will punish you harder if you dont attend, because like Lopez says, it gives out the message you dont give a damn and arent remorsefull about your act.
*Edit* Just another tit bit for you, when i was getting ready to go to court, i spoke to a mate who had a magistrate as a friend of the family. He had a chat with him for me, and you recieve a 33 % reduction in fine for pleading guilty. Thats definate. As for the turning up, theres no figures for that, but the magistrate said the same as what i found, and that was to turn up and plead guilty and admit it all, dont be cocky and plead forgiveness for your actions. State you intend to change your car to a Saxo and you've learned your lesson. If you're lucky you'll get off with a shot term ban of under 56 days and not have to re-apply for your license.
If you get a long term ban, its 6 months + and you have to re-apply for your license.
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I can safely say I've never driven at twice the speed limit.
Nor me.
Most people probably haven't, the only speed limit I'd consider that in is on the motorway, in the wee hours of the morning, with NOTHING else around, in dry and clear conditions.
Really, how did you work that out?
Driving a car like that even at 21 in my eyes is silly. Far too much power for someone with this apparent driving mentality to handle.
Im just voicing my opinions here, don't start biting my head off. But this is pretty typcial for an ocuk thread on 'ZOMG ive been caught speeding and have been caught, help me get as little punishment as possible'.
Not even going from an NSL stretch to a 30?
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Are you mad? I'm 21 and had a Corvette with 300BHP and 5.7 litres! - and I have no doubt there are people on here of a similar age with even more rapid bits of kit!
If you're shooting at what I think you're aiming at though, I'd agree - It's the driver, not the car, that causes issues on the road.
I think the person saying that you shouldn't attend is getting confused with pleading guilty at the first possible instance. Yes you should plead guilty as soon as possible; pleading guilty at the first possible instance will earn you 30% off your sentence. You should also turn up though so that you can look sorry and hope that the magistrate notices.
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