Geil black dragon C5 2x2gig and overclocking

Chabsy

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I have just got this to go with my Asus P5K and Q6600.

Im running xp 32 so wont be able to address all 4 gig.

Stupidly ram was the only thing i didn't research.

Would i be better the get 2x1 gig or 4x1 gig

Will 2x2 gig affect my overclock I want to get to around 3.2 at least.

Can I return the ram under the DSA it is un-used
 
I have chosen exactly these memory modules to order soon.
The dragon with red eyes is just awesome.
Have read that someone managed 4-4-4-15 timings.

It's just a shame that the 32bit-OS can only recognize 3GB.
But hey ... look how the prices have fallen.

Guess the next OS has to be a 64bit one then.
 
Well, 2x2GB is better then 4x1GB on the Memory Controller (less strain). If by any chance you can get a 64bit copy. Install it, it's good aaaand you have your 4GB. Really like Vista 64bit with 4GB :) good luck
 
These are the problems when changing from 32bit to 64bit Vista:

Tech-Recipes
1. Most hardware does not currently have 64-bit drivers.
2. In Vista x64, any driver that is not properly signed will not be able to enter the kernel and will fail to load.
3. Vista x64 currently does not backward support most x86 (32-bit) drivers.
4. Vista x64 does not support 16-bit software.
5. Very little 64-bit software exist.

Conclusion:
Vista x64 is the turning point for operating systems as the transition to 64-bit.
Currently, however, the majority of users will be very disappointed by installing Vista x64.
The lack of 64-bit drivers for most hardware will be very disappointing and frustrating to most users.

The performance gains promised by 64-bit will not be seen for years until 64-bit compiled versions of software is the norm.
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Windows Vista Edition 64-bit memory support
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Home Basic ..... Home Premium ..... Ultimate
8 GB .............. 16 GB ................ 128+ GB
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You see, if you decide to go for 64-bit Vista, it does matter what version you choose.

Even Microsoft writes:
The 64-bit editions of Windows Vista are not for everyone, and require a system with a 64-bit processor and 64-bit system drivers. Please confirm that your system, applications, and devices are compatible with a 64-bit edition of Windows Vista before installing.
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4sysops:
... I suppose that 64-bit will only play a major role when Vienna, the next Windows version, comes out. There are even rumors that Windows Vienna will only support 64-bit. So perhaps it makes sense to wait a few more years before jumping into the 64-bit bandwagon.
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That article is old: Jun 12, 2006. The most important factor in choosing not to go 64bit would probably be the drivers for most people. I just installed 64bit Vista and I found drivers for everything I have, apart from the monitor which uses a generic PnP driver. It even coped with an old HP Scanjet. The only thing that annoys me about 64bit Vista is the lack of a 64bit Canon RAW codec. I can live with one thing like that. It seems as though the driver situation has improved dramatically over the last year or so.
 
I have just got my misses a laptop it came as dual boot xp pro or vista business, i went for vista, it looks great but the uac is very intrusive all drivers were pre installed i will get to grips with it first then may switch this rig over, other than the max adressable ram issue i see no real reason to go vista right now
 
Pentium said:
1. Most hardware does not currently have 64-bit drivers.
2. In Vista x64, any driver that is not properly signed will not be able to enter the kernel and will fail to load.
3. Vista x64 currently does not backward support most x86 (32-bit) drivers.
4. Vista x64 does not support 16-bit software.
5. Very little 64-bit software exist.

Conclusion:
Vista x64 is the turning point for operating systems as the transition to 64-bit.
Currently, however, the majority of users will be very disappointed by installing Vista x64.
The lack of 64-bit drivers for most hardware will be very disappointing and frustrating to most users.

The performance gains promised by 64-bit will not be seen for years until 64-bit compiled versions of software is the norm.
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1. At this point in time almost all of the hardware actually does.
2. True, hence all drivers are signed now.
3. That's why you have 64bit drivers, :p
4. Is that a problem, well not for me, haven't touched that since... wait have I ever? :P
5. True, but allmost all 32bit programs run on it or have a 64bit version now or being developed.

64bit = future.
 
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Chabsy said:
I have just got my misses a laptop it came as dual boot xp pro or vista business, i went for vista, it looks great but the uac is very intrusive all drivers were pre installed i will get to grips with it first then may switch this rig over, other than the max adressable ram issue i see no real reason to go vista right now
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My wife's business laptop has Vista which it runs very well. Once it's set up UAC doesn't bother the user - although it is a pain at the beginning. IIRC UAC behaviour will be tweaked in SP1(?).

I've gone Vista on my PC instead of XP now, after quite some time thinking about it, because I see myself having this rig for a few years and don't want to be upgrading the OS again, and I want to take advantage of DX10. I went x64 to get the full 4GB of RAM. I do like the sidebar gadgets too (ok, not a great reason for choosing an OS I admit!) and I'm getting used to the interface. I guess we'll see if I made the right choice in time.
 
Personally, I would get the 2x 2gb, as it will hold its value better for reselling:) Also, it means you can add anoth 4 gb into the combo later, unlike if you got 4x 1gb.

To ease your mind, Allday247 runs his 2x2gb black dragon at 450Mhz on stock volts (1.8v!) with no problems, and he is not an experienced overclocker :) I have seen many people on here running 2 x2gb with quads. In my mind its the better option :)

Matthew
 
Looks like nice clocking RAM, I wonder if all the 2x2GB kits use the same chips, they all seem to clock to around 1000Mhz with 5-5-5 timings.
 
Just to add to the pot if you haven't made your desicion yet, I have my 2 x 2GB set running at 1066 Cas5 @ 2V.. Q6600 @ 3.4 (425fsb x 8).

Look really pretty too. Ended up getting these as they didn't have the OCZ Reaper 6400 in stock at the time and i'm not displeased at all. Saved a little money too.
 
while i understand 4x1 gb sticks cause more strain on a memory controller will it actually cause me any issues/problems adding another 2x1gb sticks to my geil 2x1gb sticks ?

i want 4gb but seems a waste buying 2x2gb when i already have 2x1gb installed

I run default timmings on the RAM but have a e6600 Oclocked to 3ghz, is there any reason why i shouldnt just run 4x1gb modules ?
 
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