8800GTX vs 3870x2

[Final8y]

Im talking about the X2, not crossfired 3870's, if the game is not crossfire supported in the drivers, then the 3870 X2 will run as a single 3870, as it will only use one of its cores, and it will be an expensive one, as the X2 is £300 on here, that means your playing that game on a £300 3870 until ATi add the crossfire support for that game into the drivers, so you can use both your cores.

Basically you have not got a clue about what has to be implemented for a game to run on this card or not.
Please point me to a link that has the 3870x2 running at single 3870 card speed on a game while 2x 3870 are spanking away.

 

[Final8y]

Im talking about the X2, not crossfired 3870's, if the game is not crossfire supported in the drivers, then the 3870 X2 will run as a single 3870, as it will only use one of its cores, and it will be an expensive one, as the X2 is £300 on here, that means your playing that game on a £300 3870 until ATi add the crossfire support for that game into the drivers, so you can use both your cores.

Basically you have not got a clue about what has to be implemented for a game to run on this card or not.
Please point me to a link that has the 3870x2 running at single 3870 card speed on a game while 2x 3870 are spanking away.
It seems that age of empires 3 does not support crossfire due to the crashing of the 3870`s but the 3870x2 had no problem.
Maybe it is seen as a single card by the games.

 

[Talrinys]

The config I use looks much better than default High...I don't use a custom config for performance I use it for better graphics, tbh having enabled the sun rays, more motion blur and EdgeAA I'm pretty sure my config gives lowers FPS than default High.

So? You're aware the 8800GTS is quite far behind an 8800GT right?

I'm not lying, my 8800GT runs every game I have fine (UT3, Gears, CoD4, BioShock, Crysis, TF2 etc at 1920x1080) and I wouldn't upgrade for likes of Crysis, which is only alright, it's not amazing.

Also by fine, 60 fps most the time on all, CoD4 4xAA very rarely dips (multiplayer pretty much never does), UT3 does dip when there's tons of action on screen in Warfare, BioShock I haven't had any dips in yets all at 1920x1080.

The GTS is behind but not in every way. The extra memory bandwidth eliminates quite a bit of the bottleneck problem that's evident in both the 8800GT and the G92 8800GTS, so gameplay might very well seem more smooth with a 8800GTS320 that a GT theoretically, benchmarks aren't all. I'd say that amount of RAM is too small though, but it's a shame that we don't have 320bit G92 cards, that would be a lot better than the current G92 cards.

People need to remember that Crysis uses an extreme amount of video memory and processes it a lot more than any other game out there, it WILL bottleneck the memory before getting to the rest of the card, and it is doing it quite obiviously in many cases.

 

[caithomas44]

But why ignore ATI's new architecure taht might be coming about in the 3Q of this year?

because it has been proven time after time, Nvidia always produce higher performance cards, they are in the market of producing workstation power cards which cost thousands, not just performance cards that cost hundreds. Therefore they have cards they can just scale down

the 3970x2 is a great card, but only for those who are building a brand new rig, or really don't like sli (if considering sli and crossfire)

everyone expects the 9000 series, (no not the gx2 pile of pants, two gtx's/gt's stuck together) to come and destroy the current 8000 range

just a shame about the cost, everyone knows there cards will be £300-£500 as usual

 

[muon]

because it has been proven time after time, Nvidia always produce higher performance cards, they are in the market of producing workstation power cards which cost thousands, not just performance cards that cost hundreds. Therefore they have cards they can just scale down

Am i missing some sarcasm here or are you just incredibly naive.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I do have a clue what i am talking about, im afraid you don't, if the game is not crossfire supported in the drivers, then the X2 will only run as a single 3870 (as it is 2x crossfired 3870s on the one board), just like the old 7950GX2, that was 2x 7900 GT's (i think), so when games were not SLi supported, it only ran as a single 7900 GT.

 

[icehot]

Am i missing some sarcasm here or are you just incredibly naive.

2 words,

you know what i mean.

 

[Final8y]

I do have a clue what i am talking about, im afraid you don't, if the game is not crossfire supported in the drivers, then the X2 will only run as a single 3870 (as it is 2x crossfired 3870s on the one board), just like the old 7950GX2, that was 2x 7900 GT's (i think), so when games were not SLi supported, it only ran as a single 7900 GT.

Your problem is definition of support that is limited by one type of symptom(Single card perfom) when out right crash could be another but if it were not for the crash it would give dual perfom.
AOE my not have CF support & thats why it crashed with CF 3870 but did not on the 3870x2.
Until you point me to tests of the 3870x2 on established games that are known to not have CF support by ether crashing or giving single card performance i stand by my previous statement as the 3870x2 has already been running games that would crash on my CF setup & giving CF performance on games that would only give single card performance on my CF setup.

 

[NVIDIA_x64]

I realy don't understand the people that say crossfire and sli only work with supported games. Tell me some games that don't have this support it is not like Nvidia or Ati would not wan't to support a game is it. The only games that may not have support are realy old games like worms world party or something and games like that do not need 2 gfx cards.

 

[Owenb]

I realy don't understand the people that say crossfire and sli only work with supported games. Tell me some games that don't have this support it is not like Nvidia or Ati would not wan't to support a game is it. The only games that may not have support are realy old games like worms world party or something and games like that do not need 2 gfx cards.

Crysis didn't until a few weeks after release.

 

[J.D]

Crysis didn't until a few weeks after release.

The first driver release after Crysis was released supported it though.

Your problem is definition of support that is limited by one type of symptom(Single card perfom) when out right crash could be another but if it were not for the crash it would give dual perfom.
AOE my not have CF support & thats why it crashed with CF 3870 but did not on the 3870x2.
Until you point me to tests of the 3870x2 on established games that are known to not have CF support by ether crashing or giving single card performance i stand by my previous statement as the 3870x2 has already been running games that would crash on my CF setup & giving CF performance on games that would only give single card performance on my CF setup.

So the X2 is handling the Crossfire solution a whole lot better than 2x 3870's?.

 

[ozzaman]

So the X2 is handling the Crossfire solution a whole lot better than 2x 3870's?.

Yes, a couple of reviews now have alluded to this. So all those who keep crying it would be cheaper to have 3870's in CF can finally be silenced.

 

[Chronictank]

it doesnt thump the ultra really, 2 or 3 fps in most reviews :S you can do that by overclocking, any new nvidia will slaughter it unfortunatley (for those ati fans).

it does for price/performance

 

[J.D]

Yes, a couple of reviews now have alluded to this. So all those who keep crying it would be cheaper to have 3870's in CF can finally be silenced.

Amen . Thanks for the info .

it does for price/performance

Yeah, I agree. If I had the choice before I bought this GTX then it would easily be the X2 over the GTX and Ultra.

 

[RoEy]

If you want the fastest card go for it if not stick with what you have got. THE KING IS DEAD HAIL THE NEW KING

Not much of a new king though is it. Keep the GTX, dual cards are just a phase. You get very little performace increase with additional cards.

RoEy

 

[cavemanoc]

Not much of a new king though is it. Keep the GTX, dual cards are just a phase. You get very little performace increase with additional cards.

RoEy

Have to say I don't think this is so - just as the CPU market has migrated to multicore, I think we'll see the same thing happen in the GFX card market - and they are already following a similar route - first it was 2 cards in seperate slots, then 2 boards in one slot, then 2 chips on one PCB... I can see this trend continuing (Unless intel's research on modular chips pans out in which case bye-bye seperate gfx card... )

 

[ClarkyAC]

you're definition of fine varies from mine, Crysis COD4 Bioshock ...i can go on and on ...they all PLAY far smoother than the GTX did.

i find that my 3870 even though gets a smaller amount of fps than the 8800GT, its smoother, and also looks a bit more detailed (e.g colours are better), but thats just me