As opposed to forming your own opinion of it?
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I saw this last night, and loved it. The camera-work was hard to get your head around to start with but once it all kicked off it worked absolutely perfectly. They had the mix of 'cinematic' shots (i.e. shots slightly less realistic but allowed you to see what was happening, without these you'd just be watching the floor all the time 
), and 'realistic' shots (i.e. of the floor) exactly right.
For those questioning the lack of story. Well, i think the whole idea is that you were watching 'their' story. They didn't know what the heck was happening, why should you? It made a great change to simply know what they knew, and nothing else. And of course there was a beginning, middle and end. The setup was the party, finding out about the relationship between Rob and Beth etc. And there was more than a 'middle' with all the different stuff happening (subway, mall etc.).
I thought the ending was brilliant. When they crashed from the helicopter i thought it had gone all soppy on us and got a bit annoyed. But when the actual ending happened it was just perfect. Realistic.. satisfying.. just perfect. I love the fact that you can kind of make up your on ending, or try to figure out what happened to the monster. Funnily enough, i think that's the point.
All in all, loved it. I went with 3 friends and every one of us came out of the cinema grinning like gibbons. It's a great film, and a refreshing change from the typical monster movie.
EDIT: And how good was the sound?!
), and 'realistic' shots (i.e. of the floor) exactly right.For those questioning the lack of story. Well, i think the whole idea is that you were watching 'their' story. They didn't know what the heck was happening, why should you? It made a great change to simply know what they knew, and nothing else. And of course there was a beginning, middle and end. The setup was the party, finding out about the relationship between Rob and Beth etc. And there was more than a 'middle' with all the different stuff happening (subway, mall etc.).
I thought the ending was brilliant. When they crashed from the helicopter i thought it had gone all soppy on us and got a bit annoyed. But when the actual ending happened it was just perfect. Realistic.. satisfying.. just perfect. I love the fact that you can kind of make up your on ending, or try to figure out what happened to the monster. Funnily enough, i think that's the point.
All in all, loved it. I went with 3 friends and every one of us came out of the cinema grinning like gibbons. It's a great film, and a refreshing change from the typical monster movie.
EDIT: And how good was the sound?!
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So if the monster is where the site in the link says its from, how can it breathe when taken out of its natural home?
In fact how can it live when taken out of its environment and especially from out of the exact place where it would have lived?
I think I wrote that without spoilers.
In fact how can it live when taken out of its environment and especially from out of the exact place where it would have lived?
I think I wrote that without spoilers.
Agreed up until this point, i'm not going to think up my own ending, that won't satisfy me at all, because I know it' what "I think".
Though I'm not sure if they survived whatever blast there wast, or if the rubble didn't kill them.
Also I would have thought the monster would have eventually died, be it hunger or some bigger bombs, if not the heat, the pressure
That's me thinking for myself, and I'd like to know how really!
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The audio made this film. It was the key factor in this movie. I still stand by my opionion that I would vote for the whole film to be divided up as to how it was shot but the sound was just brilliant!
If they had done that, they may has well have just filmed it all normally. It would have smashed the illusion if they had done that.
I think some people went to the cinema expecting a brilliantly laid out plot, with traditional camerawork. It is supposed to be viewed from the assumption these people have NO idea whats going on, they were just at a leaving party and the camera is there simply as another person....you. The film was meant to be the US government finding the tape after the incident and just watching it back.
Again, if you haven't seen this film, i suggest you get down to the cinema. TBH i also think it'll appeal to the younger generations, and not as much to the old.
why does it even matter? i think you're kinda missing the point of the film. Like if you had saw giant monster in front of you destroying the city, i really don't think you'll be stood there thinking "how does that thing breathe??"
Afterall it states that it lives in deep sea, how do you know whats down there, what type of creatures are there and what they are capable of? I'm not saying that such things exist but films would be kinda boring if everything were just based on real life facts
I was quite impressed by the movie, i also agree that the sound was the clincher. I also kind of like the fact that you dont see a great deal of the monster it sort of shows the film isnt relying on the creature to be a blockbuster but rather trying to tell the story and having good actors do it.
IMHO though a sequal would be best suited as a devostated world over run by these creatures and there offspring/parasite piggy backers, with colonies of humans sparcly spread around the world trying to survive and find a way to kill the monsters off after having help'd desomate earth by resorting to nuclear weopons unsuccessfully.
But this time they should use combinations of camera work and standerd shooting, all the camera work could be groups documenting there efforts to destroy the beasts.
i started rambling there though its kinda what i was thinking of off the top of me head
IMHO though a sequal would be best suited as a devostated world over run by these creatures and there offspring/parasite piggy backers, with colonies of humans sparcly spread around the world trying to survive and find a way to kill the monsters off after having help'd desomate earth by resorting to nuclear weopons unsuccessfully.
But this time they should use combinations of camera work and standerd shooting, all the camera work could be groups documenting there efforts to destroy the beasts.
i started rambling there though its kinda what i was thinking of off the top of me head
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I know for an absolute fact that if it lives on the bottom of the ocean it won't be able to come 5 miles up and survive on the land.
It will also probably be blind and wouldn't be able to see men holding camcorders and helicopters flying.
I don't mind monsters, I just want a bit of reality.
Given that you seemed unable to suspend disbelief for the duration of the film, it seems odd that in relation to this thread you are clearly living in cloud-cuckoo land.
Who's to say that the monster lived in the ocean? All we know is that's where it came from. Who's to say it was Earth-born? Is it not entirely possible that it's an alien? The 'babies' it created certainly didnt seem to be the type to live underwater, they seemed alien enough.
If you want to nit-pick, why dont you complain about the 22.1 surround sound mix? Surely they couldnt have got the depth and quality off of the handycam could they? ...
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Superb post.
Can't believe you went to that trouble for somebody obviously taking the pee..
For me, that would ruin it abit. Id wager that if there is to be a Cloverfield 2 it would be either from:
a) The Armies point of view: When they were in the shop and the soldiers appeared they all had cameras ontop of their helmets. Possibly something along the lines of this, very similar to what they did in Halo when they introduced the flood through Jenkins.
b) When Hud was filming, theres a bit where he sees someone else filming him, its only there for about a second but the cameras cross paths. Maybe this would be a different group of survivors who might have gotten away (could even have them in the helicopter that Lily was placed into).
There are so many little things they could do aswell, like different scenes from different viewpoints. Like the bit in the makeshift field hospital, you could see what happens to Marlena from the point of view of the solders.
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Seriously....pretty much no film is realistic. If you only like films that are totally realistic, i feel very sorry for you. This is one of the most "realistic" films i've seen, in that the way people react. Its meant to be about 4 teens who have NO idea what is going on. If something like this ever did happen (lol certainly not saying it will) but what was shown in the film is probably how it would happen and how i would react.
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Keep up with the thread please.
Its only about 3 posts up which makes it all the more funnier.
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Im sorry but filming it with a shakey camera makes it no more realistic than if it was shot normally. Its more annoying than anything, very uncomfortable to watch and was making me personally look away a lot.
I would have just of been impressed if they shot it 70/30. I watch a lot of films, I study them in depth and you wont change my opionion on this.
watch this film on dvd and you'll struggle unless your tv is HD and large.
It was hard to make anything out in that film, if I was there and was running about the city I would see a lot better than how it was shot.
Like I keep saying. Its still a brilliant movie.
I would have just of been impressed if they shot it 70/30. I watch a lot of films, I study them in depth and you wont change my opionion on this.
watch this film on dvd and you'll struggle unless your tv is HD and large.
It was hard to make anything out in that film, if I was there and was running about the city I would see a lot better than how it was shot.
Like I keep saying. Its still a brilliant movie.
Filming with steady cam really wouldn't work when the whole idea of the film is that it's shot by handycam as it's happening.