The lowerest price PC thats can run games better than current Gen Consoles

WatchTower said:
Gigabyte GZ-X1 Silver Midi Case No PSU = £29.36
OcUK Huntkey 550W PSU = £41.11
Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L Intel P31 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard = £52.86
Gainward BLISS GeForce 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail = £158.61
Intel Core 2 Duo E2160 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.80GHz (800FSB) - Retail = £48.16 (People have been clocking these to 3Ghz+ on air)
Corsair 2GB DDR2 Value Select PC2-5300C5 Dual Channel Kit (2x1GB) = £30.54
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (0Y30006) = £31.71
LiteON DH-16D2P-02C 16x DVD-ROM (Black) - OEM = £10.56
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 64-Bit Edition DVD - OEM = £56.39

Logitech PS/2 Optical Wheel Mouse White - OEM = £4.69
Logitech Deluxe Keyboard (White) - OEM = £6.45

Total = £470.44

I picked a Gigabyte mobo has I've always found them best value for a board that can overclock the CPU extremely well.

Can you guys beat this price give it ago. :D
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Why not buy a hard drive equivalent to the 360 premium, 20gb is it? For about £5, saving £25 already...

And uh, who in the right mind would buy Vista for a gaming machine, scrap that and save a few more quid buying a copy of XP. :D

Oh, and 8800GT's can be had for around £140. (mine was £141 on release day - Inno3D fyi)

I'd rather spend £400ish on a PC of around that spec that is already a generation ahead of the "next-gen" consoles, lol.
 
I think the main difference is that a a console will generally still be running increasingly better looking games (obviously restricted to the tech inside it) at full speed in 3 years time, whereas your current PC won't without going through at least a couple of upgrades. In terms of value for money consoles are far superior form a hardware perspective... but they lose out in terms of software. A lot of eople rarely pay for their PC games/apps, and thus save hundreds, even thousands.

(I'm a PC gamer)
 
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Shamikebab said:
apologies, i wasn't meant to sound that condescending.
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Hehe it's ok I was being ironic in that my above comment was also patronising! :D

I was playing PES8 yesterday on a friends 360 and it was really choppy on HD, anything other that the play view would drop to quite low FPS, I was surprised.

Same with the new GTA trailer, I was actually looking at getting a 360 to play my friends and especially for GTA but low FPS put me off.
 
PES 08 has known framerate problems, the new FIFA is far better and runs very smoothly. How new a GTA trailer are we talking? until really recently there have been framerate issues with all builds of GTA 4 (well they haven't actually shown the PS3 version yet) but thats to be expected from a pre release video.
 
another thing to consider is that consoles often render games at lower resolution and upscale them to 720p/1080p, whereas a pc is genuinely rendering at 1680 x 1050...

So a 360 can run GoW at 720p while certain PC's may struggle, but the fact is it's really running it at 620p and upscalling.
 
Richdog said:
I think the main difference is that a a console will generally still be running increasingly better looking games (obviously restricted to the tech inside it) at full speed in 3 years time, whereas your current PC won't without going through at least a couple of upgrades. In terms of value for money consoles are far superior form a hardware perspective... but they lose out in terms of software. A lot of eople rarely pay for their PC games/apps, and thus save hundreds, even thousands.

(I'm a PC gamer)
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Yes but in 3 years time how powerful will the cards be,as you get into the middle/end part of the console/s life the pc will pull away until the next gen out which for a while will be in front of the pc until it catches up again and takes the lead.
 
queamin said:
Yes but in 3 years time how powerful will the cards be,as you get into the middle/end part of the console/s life the pc will pull away until the next gen out which for a while will be in front of the pc until it catches up again and takes the lead.
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Obviously the PC advances rapidly, but at increased cost and inconvenience compared to a console... which will continue to perform through its' lifespan. Don't forget its only really relativel recent that PC's have been able to rival consoles... in days past consoles used to provide miles better looking games and PC's were constantly trying to emulate those looks. To me though that means nothing compared to the sheer depth and variety my PC has provided for me. I wish I could do back in time and play games like Dune II, TIE Fighter, Wing Commander Privateer or Freespace II for the first time again... those were the days...*sigh* :(
 
To be honest GoW looks much nicer on the PC and I find any FPS style game more fun and intuitive on the PC.

Where the console really shines isn't the quality or number of games, but more the social aspect of sat with friends over a fews beer ... and ashtray, having fun. Alone, I don't really see their appeal.
 
Edleake said:
To be honest GoW looks much nicer on the PC and I find any FPS style game more fun and intuitive on the PC.

Where the console really shines isn't the quality or number of games, but more the social aspect of sat with friends over a fews beer ... and ashtray, having fun. Alone, I don't really see their appeal.
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Depends i used to take my base unit around to friends and we set up in the same room 3 or 4 of us,or every month orso go to a lan,sitting around a tv on a consoe is good but i like to play on a lan in the same room with friends on their own pc's.
 
Richdog said:
Obviously the PC advances rapidly, but at increased cost and inconvenience compared to a console... which will continue to perform through its' lifespan. Don't forget its only really relativel recent that PC's have been able to rival consoles... in days past consoles used to provide miles better looking games and PC's were constantly trying to emulate those looks. To me though that means nothing compared to the sheer depth and variety my PC has provided for me. I wish I could do back in time and play games like Dune II, TIE Fighter, Wing Commander Privateer or Freespace II for the first time again... those were the days...*sigh* :(
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Yes agreed that why i still got a ps2 and not a 360/ps3 as to me they were overtaken/equal by the pc early into their life unlike ps2
 
Richdog said:
I think the main difference is that a a console will generally still be running increasingly better looking games (obviously restricted to the tech inside it) at full speed in 3 years time
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Unfortunately the 360 is already at it's limit IMHO, and I own an Elite.

More recent games, Mass Effect especially, run at an utter crawl so very soon you're going to see games start doing the "Halo 2 on Xbox 1" thing and use graphical shortcuts with level-of-detail snap-ins and other junk.

The 360 and the PC are both good but the PC is superior, you get what you pay for and it's that simple with no need for bias.
 
same goes for the PS3, with the game lair. During larger air battles, the fps can drop into the single digits at times.

this could be due to a rushed game perhaps...but its just an example
 
Just because there are some games that don't run smoothly now, it doesn't mean a console has reached its limit. Designers will learn how to use both consoles architectures far more efficiently, leading to better looking and running games.
 
PC>PS3/xbox360 easily in terms of raw power.

but i have a PC and a PS3...

why? because raw power is not everything is games are Unoptimised, or if games are better with a certain control pad style etc...

its not always what you play, but how you play it
 
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