Is Mascherano worth £18 million ?

A player is worth what a side will pay for him. In that respect yes, he is worth it.
 
Easily worth it. Just have to look at some of his displays this an last season. The mans amazin at what he does. His passing aint great??? to me his passing is fine, some of his long range passes can easily better gerrards/alonso's, an the man jus keeps goin always battlin in midfield.

Easily worth it ;)
 
weringo said:
He's been the best defensive midfielder in the league this season, he's proven Premiership quality.

When Man Utd spend a similar amount of money on "potential" (Anderson/Nani) I think it's fair to say Masch is easily worth what MSI are asking.
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Agreed, cracking player, glad we got our fingers out and kept him tbh, even though he looks like Billy (Andys dad) from Emmerdale. :D
 
da_mic_1530 said:
But he is not who Liverpool need to drop 18 million on, they need to improve other areas
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I would agree with that, Liverpool need midfielders who can chip in with goals. If rumours are to be believed Alonso is off in the summer so it makes sense to buy him I suppose. I wouldn't compare his price to Carrick either as they are different players. It's also silly to compare prices paid by Liverpool to prices paid by United since players we're interested in often have a few million whacked on top.

I don't think he's been that special this season. I watched him on Saturday and he had a good game against Sunderland but overall I'd say Flamini and Anderson have been better this season.
 
You're right Rip we do need players in other positions but with Sissoko now gone we need another top class CM, I'd rather get one of the best players around and pay the price as opposed to getting an average player on the cheap like we've been doing for years.

Alonso is rumoured to leave EVERY summer so I wouldn't read too much into that.
 
weringo said:
You're right Rip we do need players in other positions but with Sissoko now gone we need another top class CM, I'd rather get one of the best players around and pay the price as opposed to getting an average player on the cheap like we've been doing for years.

Alonso is rumoured to leave EVERY summer so I wouldn't read too much into that.
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i agree with that buying policy on the whole. still you are desperately short of players in a couple of other positions so depending on whether the yanks give you cash or if you have to sell to buy then you might give up alonso at some point. of course it also depends if benitez keeps his position i guess.
 
Ripper said:
I don't think he's been that special this season. I watched him on Saturday and he had a good game against Sunderland but overall I'd say Flamini and Anderson have been better this season.
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Agreed Anderson is better (even though he isnt strictly a DM/HM either, even though he has played this role in some games)

I would say even on the limited view of him so far Hargreaves and Flamini (in his usual role) are better , it could have course be rather difficult for Mascherano with constant team changes around him

Once the team is stable it will be a lot easier to see his full quality
 
My red housemates rave about him, but to put him at £18 is just daft. I've only seen a few Liverpool games this season and I'd rate him at £9m at the most. Could Mascherano be worth £18m? I don't know really, I agree with the posts above that indicate he might improve with team stability. He already seems a fairly good tackler and reader of the game.

OT, I love Wenger's youth policy, we picked up Flamini for if we had wished, technically for nothing, though the manager has a policy of £0.5 reimbursement. (I can't remember what the total was in the end, as Marseille moaned about what we did and I think they accepted another £2m). Not bad for somebody who is clearly Champion's League quality and can play in 4 positions. (CM, CM, LB and I think RB though not sure on the latter one).
 
Greenlizard0 said:
My red housemates rave about him, but to put him at £18 is just daft. I've only seen a few Liverpool games this season and I'd rate him at £9m at the most. Could Mascherano be worth £18m? I don't know really, I agree with the posts above that indicate he might improve with team stability. He already seems a fairly good tackler and reader of the game.
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Id love to know how you came to the figure of £9m? Seems people are just picking figures out of the sky with no thought.

Especially when you consider:

Essien £24m
Makelele £17m
Hargreaves £17m
Anderson £17m
Carrick £18.6m
 
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Burned_Alive said:
Id love to know how you came to the figure of £9m? Seems people are just picking figures out of the sky with no thought.

Especially when you consider:

Essien £24m
Makelele £17m
Hargreaves £17m
Anderson £17m
Carrick £18.6m
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Good question. I don't really know - I try to compare him to say other midfielders and how much their last transfer was/are deemed to be worth now. It's a totally subjective figure, I know as opinions differ, and some clubs pay a bit more than they player is really worth e.g. Chelsea and Manu. Just because they all pay around £20m on average doesn't in my opinion mean that they're worth that much.

I think Gilly hit the nail on the head, in some cases a player is indeed worth however much a club is prepared to pay for him. But then other times he isn't? Theirry was a moody ****, but letting him go for £16.5m was a tad cheap in my opinion..
 
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Burned_Alive said:
I think you'll find thats exactly what it means, in the current market £18m is about right.
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Sorry but if you look hard enough, then no - you don't have to pay £18m. Our midfield quartet combined was bought for less than £18m.

Also - if you look at the players you mentioned from Chelsea, then from the games that I have seen I don't think Mascherano's as good as the blues ones. However I am prepared to admit I'm wrong because I don't often see many of Liverpool's games these days.
 
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He's a talented player, but I think £18m is too much for a player who's passing isn't very good and is quite clumsy, but he makes a pest of himself and works hard.

I don't think he's the best DM in the league should everyone be playing and playing fully fit, but as many have been out this season then I'd say he's up there this season, though I think Flamini is head and shoulders above him this season.
 
Burned_Alive said:
And took how long to put together/develop?
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Different question though sort of, what has that got to do with anything?. Flamini has played a long time for us - but mostly in other positions (e.g. LB). Cesc I think has been playing first team football regularly for 2.5 years. Hleb and Rosicky haven't been at the club long at all.

I don't see why you've asked that question? Are you saying therefore that £18m is what is needed to be paid for a fully developed seasoned midfielder?
 
Not sure how accurate the £18m figure actually is. A well respected poster from a LFC forum (who often breaks news before it happens) has said that the £18m includes his wages for the 4 years. If that was right then that would make the fee closer to £8-10m and he's certainly worth that. But even if its £18m then he's still worth it: Mikel, Makelele, Hargreaves and Carrick all cost similar amounts and on ability and reputation (when they signed) only Makelele was regarded higher (but then you have the age issue).
 
Greenlizard0 said:
Different question though sort of, what has that got to do with anything?. Flamini has played a long time for us - but mostly in other positions (e.g. LB). Cesc I think has been playing first team football regularly for 2.5 years. Hleb and Rosicky haven't been at the club long at all.

I don't see why you've asked that question? Are you saying therefore that £18m is what is needed to be paid for a fully developed seasoned midfielder?
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In the current market, yes pretty much.
 
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