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Cyanide said:
Sadly all of the above is required these days, the regulations suck and end up costing the customer more but at the end of the day if he didn't fit it as per the regs he'd be looking at a hefty fine or even losing his corgi.
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Yeah I was talking to the plumber about this ,all this new regs may seem like a good idea but cost a fortune to the customer !
Thanks for confirming that I did need what has been done :)
 
Cyberstrike2027 said:
Regulations my foot, it was ok when they put it in, and 13 years ago would still be considered modern, plumbing technology doesn't change much in 13 years.
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Buildings regulations changed significantly in 2002, they are a lot tighter now and any upgrade work could cost significantly more.

I've been hit bad because the previous owners of my flat rented it and did DIY jobs everywhere, including the gas system which is technically illegal. I had to get the whole gas and water system stripped because none of the pipe work was up to modern regulations.

The gas hob was the most worrying, apparantly the previous owners used the wrong type of gas hose which was too thin and would have broken with further use. The boiler also had significant carbon scoring on the outside due to previous leakage, had to go all last December without heating or hot water.

The regs were changed to stop people doing cowboy work and they've definitely been for the better. On the plus side i can use it as a selling point that it's all compliant.
 
My Dads a self employed plumber and has absolutely no form of advertising. The only thing that gets him work is word of mouth.

He has just covered our roof in solar panels and turned our new porch into some sort of plumbers dream. So no need to waste energy in the summer for hot water. Score.
 
chimaera said:
I've been hit bad because the previous owners of my flat rented it and did DIY jobs everywhere, including the gas system which is technically illegal.
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I wish people would stop perpetuating this Corgi drivel, to do work for which you are paid you must be a member of an approved organisation unfortunately for Gas this means the aformentioned Corgi as they are the only one. If working on you own property not for profit then you must be a 'competent person' as yet no court case has been brought to define what a competent person is.

Some of the worst boiler installs I have ever seen have been done by Corgi registered installers including two that had the potential to be leathal due to dodgy flue installs and one that wouldn't light as the air intake was blocked. They were obviously perfectly safe though as all had corgi installer certificates!

Theis country despertely needs a second body to certify Gas installers as Corgi has become a special socirty designed to make it's members money and is getting worse by the minute. I had a corgi man refuse to plum the gas into a boiler (the only bit that it is illegal to do yourself for money) because he would need to be there through out the install to ensure I screwed it to the wall with the right screws!
 
a1ex2001 said:
I wish people would stop perpetuating this Corgi drivel, to do work for which you are paid you must be a member of an approved organisation unfortunately for Gas this means the aformentioned Corgi as they are the only one. If working on you own property not for profit then you must be a 'competent person' as yet no court case has been brought to define what a competent person is.
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Interesting as when I tried to connect my gas cooker ,which failed as it stank of gas ,the plumber that I then called told me by doing it myself I was invalidating my house insurance !
 
a1ex2001 said:
I wish people would stop perpetuating this Corgi drivel, to do work for which you are paid you must be a member of an approved organisation unfortunately for Gas this means the aformentioned Corgi as they are the only one. If working on you own property not for profit then you must be a 'competent person' as yet no court case has been brought to define what a competent person is.
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If you'd seen my flat when i first bought it you'd understand my support of strong regulations. The system was not installed by a competent person, it was a DIY hack job to save money on a rented property, the flue pipe had no cover and rain water leaked through the boiler and there were clear signs of serious leakage.

The vast majority of people don't understand how to install gas products safely yet if they are given the chance some people will always have a go, often with serious consequences. They may be a hindrance to someone like yourself but to the vast majority it's essential to have an industry regulator, especially one that can save lives.

I can understand the guy who refused to finish your gas installation, if you did something wrong the automatic blame would fall on him as he registered the product as safe. At the end of the day he's got the right to refuse a job if he thinks it could compromise his livelihood.
 
What about the 2 blokes that did my tiling in my kitchen, they were in and out of the garage sealing the tiles. Next thing i heard was "aye mate u wanna come and pull the garage door shut as its stuck" They had only pulled the big garage door down on one side and totally wrecked it, all the wires snapped and the door bent, they just denied it. It was a nightmare, i couldnt shut the door all night until i could get someone out.
 
How much are we looking at for a new boiler fitted these days?.

My boiler (not combi) is about 15yrs old now and im sure wont last that much longer, i thought about £1000 to change the boiler over but looking at all these new regs it looks like it could cost me a small fortune.

Any ideas on cost as id better start saving :(
 
ScoobyDoo said:
How much are we looking at for a new boiler fitted these days?.

My boiler (not combi) is about 15yrs old now and im sure wont last that much longer, i thought about £1000 to change the boiler over but looking at all these new regs it looks like it could cost me a small fortune.

Any ideas on cost as id better start saving :(
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Depends who you get to do it, the actual boilers are around £550-£600 for the cheap ones, though you can splash out £1000+ just on the boiler.

If all you're doing is swapping the boiler then £1000 should cover it, though if the valves, pipework and electrics need changing you could be around £1500.

If you fancy a Combi then you'd be looking at £1500-£2k as it's usually a lot more involved (from a conventional system) and will require floorboards up, re-piping etc.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
How much are we looking at for a new boiler fitted these days?.

My boiler (not combi) is about 15yrs old now and im sure wont last that much longer, i thought about £1000 to change the boiler over but looking at all these new regs it looks like it could cost me a small fortune.

Any ideas on cost as id better start saving :(
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we recently had a quote of £2200 + vat to get a worcester bosch combi installed.
 
Cyanide said:
Depends who you get to do it, the actual boilers are around £550-£600 for the cheap ones, though you can splash out £1000+ just on the boiler.

If all you're doing is swapping the boiler then £1000 should cover it, though if the valves, pipework and electrics need changing you could be around £1500.

If you fancy a Combi then you'd be looking at £1500-£2k as it's usually a lot more involved (from a conventional system) and will require floorboards up, re-piping etc.
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sounds about right :) it will vary from property to property depending on the work involved.
 
DanMc07 said:
sounds about right :) it will vary from property to property depending on the work involved.
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I was hoping I was about right, that's what I'd charge for doing it myself but the company I work for aren't exactly known for being the cheapest so I've got no real idea of how much it all costs for the customer :D
 
What a cowboy ,his just been round to drain the system and plaster some holes he left ,the plaster I had to tidy up as it was all over the wallpaper then he goes to leave without checking its working !(which it was not)
First he says the boiler is not on but it was as he forgot to turn if off when draining it ,then he managed to get it working then makes a dash for the door again ,I complained that most of the rads were only hot at the very top to which he says ,heat rises ,I had to really insist that he sorts it out before leaving which reluctantly he did as regards to checking the pressure in the boiler as it makes a loud booming noise when firing up ,"I'm not qualified to open it " so I have the guy from Baxi phoning me on monday :rolleyes:
 
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