My opinions on Vista SP1, 8 months later..

Just need to find if my Flash Voyager is compatible.

I can't see why not. Oh and exactly TheVoice - gaming in vista with 2gb if fine.
 
That's quite an exaggeration; I'm running Vista with 2GB and gaming is absolutely fine, and that's running at decent resolutions (often 1680x1050) and high detail levels.

That's not to say 4GB isn't going to be better still, but 2GB certainly isn't only adequate for "light usage".

Agreed. I was a little :confused: about that as well...
 
if i was talking about minimum required i could have said 512mb, but i stated the OS sweet spot which IS 4gb. gaming with 2gb in Vista is like 1gb under XP ...not enjoyable.

Hello marscay, sorry but I couldn't disagree more with you. Windows Vista runs absolutely fine on 1GB of RAM and it runs superbly with 2GB of RAM. Give Windows Vista 4GB of RAM and it will take advantage of it :D but it is certainly not an definite requirement. :)


Hello 2StepSteve, some of them benchmarks on that website are rather inaccurate. For example, the Flight Simulator Graph and the Company Of Heroes Graph, something isn't quite right there. :p It's down to these sort of reviews that give Windows Vista such a bad name.

Have a read through the firingsquad article. Please take into account that it is around 4 months out of date so it may not represent what the gamming performance is like to this day. Though, I think it's fair to say that it will be better now, to this day then it was when that review was written. :)
 
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To use readyboost do you need to format the flash drive?

I have a corsair flash voyager which I may try it on (presuming the drive will work as a readyboosy device).

It basically copies the superfetch onto the USB stick as a big file (maximum is 4gb). No formatting, etc. is required the only thing you'll notice is the file on there.



M.
 
One thing - if you have a readyboost device connected to a USB hub do you have to remove it before rebooting, or just reboot as normal and let windows deal with it?
 
maybe because i had 2gb when Vista was first rels'd and everything was relatively average then.

with a fast quad and 4gb i do like to keep things running while i game so i probably pull another 500-600mb in apps that i don't need to.

with the price of DDR2 i just don't see the reason not to run 4gb.
 
maybe because i had 2gb when Vista was first rels'd and everything was relatively average then.

with a fast quad and 4gb i do like to keep things running while i game so i probably pull another 500-600mb in apps that i don't need to.

with the price of DDR2 i just don't see the reason not to run 4gb.

That's irrelevant. 2gb is fine for vista. I gamed for about a year on 2gb and only went to 4 because of the price.

When I gamed with 2gb I didn't go turning things off just to game. I had mirc, msn, TS, kaspersky, flashget, firefox, logitech G keys thingy and lots of other things running.
 
You've only just finished rolling out XP company-wide?.:D

I haven't, nothing to do with me, but I will admit the company aren't the quickest this kind of thing.

However, the company I work for uses a lot of bespoke software so these upgrades can sometimes take a while and as I mentioned, we've still not been able to migrate all our machines.

Office 2007 upgrade has been completed because that only required 600 users to have their MSCRM patched.

No idea how long the Vista roll-out will take, but I can assure you it will start as soon. That will probably take another 5 years to complete as well, knowing that team.
 
I'm getting 15 MB/sec copying from one HD to another. Oh dear still not fixed. Also slowing down Windows itself, it paused whilst copying this paragraph.

Fine in XP.
 
Just to add to this, I was using XP and swore never to swap over to Vista because I like to game. I heard about SP1 and all the things it's going to do so I decided to see what the fuss was all about.

Generally I don't install an operating system and continue to use it, but I've been using Vista all day expecting something to go wrong, to keep rebooting. I'm happy to say though that I'm rather impressed with how far Vista has come since last year.
Sure it takes some getting used too, it's half a world apart from how 2000/XP worked, I'm still getting lost sometimes but I no longer think Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft is generally keeping up.
 
I'm getting 15 MB/sec copying from one HD to another. Oh dear still not fixed. Also slowing down Windows itself, it paused whilst copying this paragraph.

Fine in XP.

I would check what transfer mode your controller are supporting in Vista, sound like it may have gone back to PIO rather than UDMA, is your CPU usage high?

HEADRAT
 
I'm getting 15 MB/sec copying from one HD to another. Oh dear still not fixed. Also slowing down Windows itself, it paused whilst copying this paragraph.

Fine in XP.

You could always wait until SP1 is actually released before carrying on your crusade...
 
I switched from XP SP2 to Vista 32 when building my new machine (Athlon 5000+ 4GB Ram), external hardrive just would not work for love nor money and the company despite numerous other reports of the same problem practically swore blind the problem didn't exist.

So i went back to XP SP2. Which was lovely (Despite being obscenely bored with the interface) even with 3.25GB of ram.

Then i built my current system, Q6600 4GB ram.. figured i'de give Vista 64 a shot due to a neighbour and pc 'professional' claiming it was more sorted and much better than XP - And somehow better than Vista 32 (Anyone else noticed a difference?)

Oddly, he was right. Ext Hardrive magically worked for one. OS is lovely to use. Still don't understand why sometimes my control panel doesn't load, and that i have to stop and start services to fix it, but so far a small price for a generally better user experience.

Hopefully SP1 will sort my Control panel issue, and we'll be cruising :)
 
Just to say that I've been using Vista for about 6 months, and I have found the best feature is the new Start Menu, Thinking about having to browse through a giant list seems incredibly backward to me now, compared to hitting the start key, typing the first couple of letters of whatever app or document i want and pressing enter. It probably takes me less than a second to open anything now.

Also, i think 2GB is fine for more than "light usage", I'd go so far as to say it's fine for doing anything except playing certain high Ram usage games, or having multiple eve/wow clients running at the same time. With Aero turned off (i like the basic look) even with my usual 20 or so different windows open i'm still only at 1.1 GB usage for web browsing, remote desktop sessions, mp3 player and some word/excel docs open, i think that qualifies as light usage and there's plenty of room to grow.
Have there been any 4GB vs 2GB benchmarks done recently for Vista?
 
Article on SP1 here... http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/08/vista-sp1-does-solve-problems

Vista SP1 does not solve many problems

Invents some new ones

By Nick Farrell: Friday, 08 February 2008, 9:30 AM


REVIEWERS of Microsoft's SP1 service pack for Vista have discovered that the upgrade means that files will copy nine per cent faster.

However, according to the likes of PC World, SP1 comes with a few bugs of its own.

The Vole claims real improvements to copying, compressing, and extracting files, better boot and power down times, improved network performance, and more.

However installation in PC World's tests, took 27 minutes and three reboots. Most of the time was taken up by Vista having a little think while it 'prepared the configuration'.

Start-up and shut down times remained the same. It seems the nine per cent improvement in file copying times was the only real difference.

It is unlikely that many people will notice a difference between SP1 and an unpatched system. It is also likely that companies that have held off from upgrading from XP will not bother as it hardly seems to be worth the time, money or heartache. µ
 
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