Eos1d= mark 3 woes. again a possibility

Oh dear. Looks like a 1D MkIV isn't such a bad idea after all. Canon are going to have to play this game carefully or its going to very much play into Nikons hands.
 
I must admit that in daylight my MkIII never takes a single in focus image, all I end up shooting is junk, I have cards full of blurry images.

And since the D3 has turned up on the market, my camera won't switch on anymore, we can't even find my friends 5D.

;)


I know they've had problems with some of the bodies, thankfully mine isn't one of them.
One question I am wondering, is if they've only just identified the "root cause" of the issue, this means it isn't the submirror assembley which was at fault, the issue could run over into the 1Ds MkIII because the focussing system is identical.
 
V-Spec said:
I must admit that in daylight my MkIII never takes a single in focus image, all I end up shooting is junk, I have cards full of blurry images.

And since the D3 has turned up on the market, my camera won't switch on anymore, we can't even find my friends 5D.

;)


I know they've had problems with some of the bodies, thankfully mine isn't one of them.
One question I am wondering, is if they've only just identified the "root cause" of the issue, this means it isn't the submirror assembley which was at fault, the issue could run over into the 1Ds MkIII because the focussing
system is identical.
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haha :)

afaik the sub mirror problem does exist, the new problem is that they have found some mkIII`s have trouble getting focus in bright sunlight

Canon should have foreseen these problems before the camera was released, it shows they didnt throroughly test the mkIII

I would still buy one if I could justify spending that much on a body
 
JBuk said:
haha :)

afaik the sub mirror problem does exist, the new problem is that they have found some mkIII`s have trouble getting focus in bright sunlight

Canon should have foreseen these problems before the camera was released, it shows they didnt throroughly test the mkIII

I would still buy one if I could justify spending that much on a body
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It does exist, but not on all cameras.

But yes - it is a joke :(
 
i have seen your posts before on this and you usually say youve never had a problem with yours albiet above thats a new angle

as im aware any built before october (end of) all have the sub mirror fix problems ie needs to be done, simple they defined blue dot ones as not needing the fix.

i got one over in states in late june and another from HK both sold on for focus issues.

if not a N model appearing of this im sure a mark 4 will appear this model will be canon achilles heel to bite them for a lot of months to follow,

i feel they are not helping users they hid the fact of possible errors they never followed thru a RG report and chuck answered a few Q's on it recenlty but i feel badgered around and reported RG didnt do it all correctly,, yet his canon tech guru was part of RG finds for probably a 6 week summer term to disprove (thats the REAL reason they were there) findings and now its possible another hard ware fix will have to be done and lets assume its going to effect the newer blue dot versions as well.

you take some great photos V-spec and i appreciate your honesty and the fact WE are not blind to simply follow canons lead, personally the body is flawed if you move up from a 20d/30d/40d its hard to judge but if you have used 1dmark2's you can judge fairly and honestly its not right below par to the earlier model

and still people do get great shots but a lot post just one, where is sequence of the bird swooping down collecting some meat and flying of ? 15 or 20 shots etc that what the camera was built for but doesnt attain

again V-spec no inference towards you just you recent post had some great shots and that the part missing a few 6 to 15 in sequence etc ,

i think ive explained that clearly,, your being picked as you have one and have some great images from it and probably 95% happy with it.

just those 5% may mean the difference.
 
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To be perfectly and totally honest, my camera has been great from the word go, I got it in June and shot many drag racing events in heat up to 30 degrees, I had no issues at all with it, which may be down to luck but I was getting consisent keepers and probably 7-8/10 hit rate with 10fps,
I'm not going to try to cover up the issue, as there clearly is one when the MkIIn is a better keeper.

When I bought it, I ran all manner of tests standing at the side of the road and photographing car numberplates coming towards me at 60mph, (very similar to RGs tests with people running) and keeper rate was very high, this was done in overcast and bright hot sun.

After hearing about this new issue I'm tempted to send mine back and have it "sorted out" but I'm a bit sceptical about doing so, because I have read many stories where someone has one which focuses pretty damn well, when it comes back from canon it sucks, I don't want to ruin a body which isn't causing me problems.

From the outset there appeared to be 2 problems, one where focus would not lock at all and you'd have to keep pumping the shutter, and another where if you took a sequence at 10fps, they'd only be 1 or 2 shots which were razor, the rest would be vaguely in focus but quite soft, the first issue has never affected me, with the second problem i'd say with birds in flight it can sometimes lock focus with the centre point, but then lock onto a busy background despite the centrepoint being firmly locked onto the bird, I'm pretty good at tracking moving stuff.

With regard to one of my previous posts (Red Kites and Buzzards?) I wouldn't class any of those shots as being mega razor sharp, simply because they were all took in appalling light @ ISO 1250-1600 the noise presence detracts from the sharpness, but I was 100% confident that shooting in good light @ ISO 100-400 that they would have been crisp as hell, i'll be going back soon to give it another go.
 
V-Spec said:
With regard to one of my previous posts (Red Kites and Buzzards?) I wouldn't class any of those shots as being mega razor sharp, simply because they were all took in appalling light @ ISO 1250-1600 the noise presence detracts from the sharpness, but I was 100% confident that shooting in good light @ ISO 100-400 that they would have been crisp as hell, i'll be going back soon to give it another go.
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yes totally agree they are good/great photos but like all "second" time round better may indeed come, its hard to judge and pass judgement on something of others work sometimes a careless word sentance gets a real heat on, hence i dont partake in such as a rule.

good luck like to see results once you get them, by the by how far from caerphilly is it we have friends i visit once or twice a year so maybe ill get to trek there..

ill take my underwater a70 then no one can compare like for like..lol
 
startrek2 said:
yes totally agree they are good/great photos but like all "second" time round better may indeed come, its hard to judge and pass judgement on something of others work sometimes a careless word sentance gets a real heat on, hence i dont partake in such as a rule.

good luck like to see results once you get them, by the by how far from caerphilly is it we have friends i visit once or twice a year so maybe ill get to trek there..

ill take my underwater a70 then no one can compare like for like..lol
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I don't know wales very well, but Gigrin farm is in Rhayader, its well worth a trip just to watch the Kites even if your camless.

When the farmer unloads the food into the field, its like watching a 500 player Quake deathmatch lol.
 
gods sake I couldn't stop thinking about this thread today,

Spend the day in Birdhaven in Norfolk (Salthouse, then Titchwell) weather was really warm, the light was utterly georgeous and really bright, no end of bird life knocking around so I decided to concentrate on flight shots and air acrobatics............................... or so I thought, until the camera decided to lock onto the background, even with a seagul almost fullframe and on the centrepoint, it just kept locking onto the background, unless it was clear blue sky, anything other than clear blue sky as a background and it just would not lock on or hold focus.
Missed no end of perfect opportunities and watched as stunning shots turned into nothing but big blobs in the viewfinder and a perfectly focussed background :( :(. Changing any of the custom functions had no effect and just made things worse, as I have custom templates for birds, stationary, panning etc..
I even swapped bodies with my friends 500mmF4 and MkIIn and I was instantly hitting the shots I wanted without any issue..

Then later on at Titchwell, the sun lost some of its intensity, and whilst the light was still bright it wasn't anything like before, low and behold, the MkIII comes back to life and starts rattling off in focus shots...

Bit confused and gutted now... :mad:
 
sounds exactly like the problem they are now trying to fix

to have 2 major problems with the flagship camera is very poor on Canons part, hopefully they will learn from this for future models
 
i'm confused as to how having more/better light brings out this focusing 'issue'. anyone know what's causing it or is that the whole problem?
 
thanks for that, still amazes me that canon actually released a camera with such a massive flaw
 
they still dont count it as a massive flaw despite poeple findings. they will never declare it fixed they will do fixes on it but it will be replaced with a mark4 or a N model soon it will not last the time the mark2 has or the following.

thats sucks big time..... we call it "rip of briton" maybe canon are moving headquarters here.
 
Went out for a blast today again, to see if the problem was still as bad.... Wasn't impressed tbh, with blue skies and no busy backgrounds like trees or water with patterns, it focussed well, see below shot taken yesterday in Norfolk, i'd class that as acceptably sharp for a flight shot.

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When I took it out today, I deliberatly went after birds where the background wasn't a solid blue sky, it was very very bright, best light so far this year.
The MkIII failed to stay locked on to any bird where the background was busy, at times it would lock on but keep focussing to the background unless I pumped the shutter, I've never had this problem with birds when its freezing cold..
I tried all manner of settings and changing custom fuctions which have always worked fine, but managed stuff similar to the below pic :(

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As I say, it was working fine until I took it out shooting birds in bright sunshine where there was some heat, like in this shot, there was plenty of light and things locked on perfectly, perhaps a little soft but they were moving at about 60mph :)

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Gonna ring Canon tommorow and arrange to have the submirror done, alone with a CD with some sample shots on, if it comes back unfixed or it still sucks after all the firmware/newfix i'll not know what to do, I won't be downgrading to a MkIIn, whilst the MkIIn is a hell of a camera its not exactly great having to go back 3 years in time just to get infocus shots, I have a lot of things planned for summer/autum, and can't be doing with a body starting to screw up..

Kind of ironic I guess, given my comments earlier in this thread.... :(
 
Sell your gear and get a D3? :p


But seriously, that really sucks, though I know someone who shoots badminton with a MKIII in Hong Kong and he says his shots stay in focus... Very odd.
 
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