LCD or Plasma for 40"-50"?

It wont be for long though, because LCDs outsell plasmas; to this end, it makes sense for companies to concentrate all their efforts on LCD panels, a la Sony.

That's not necessarily true. Companies can compete on a limited number of strategies, but differentiation is one of them.
 
Think of it this way. If a technology is out there that is out selling another tech (say LCD vs Plasma), companies who produce both (for example Samsung), at some point will think that it makes financial sense to put all their R+D budget into LCD. There will also be companies like Sony, for example, who dont do plasmas at all because it doesnt make financial sense. All their R+D budget is spent on LCD.

Consider that those are just 2 companies. Now consider all the other smaller, more obscure companies out there. All their R+D budgets will be invested in technolgies that will sell high and allow them to make greater profits. Hence, given that LCDs outsell plasma and are continuing to gain momentum, it makes sense that if you look at the entire worldwide R+D budget of LCD vs the entire world R+D budget of plasma, you will find that LCD is destined to improve at a faster rate than plasma and eventually take over, in terms of picture quality.

Of course, there will always be a niche market, should sales drop to miniscule levels, for plasmas, but I just feel that LCDs will offer better value for money, at some stage in the near future, due to the huge R+D budgets.

Right now, what is keeping plasma in the game is that it offers better image quality than LCD, for a given price point and size. And even then LCD outsells plasma. What do you think will happen to plasma sales, once, for a given pricepoint and size, an LCD screen is able to deliver better images than plasma?
 
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You're making an awful lot of assumptions in your theory.

Not assumption. Predictions.

[DOD]Asprilla;11113880 said:
You're assuming that LCD will, one day, catch plasma in terms of quality ...

Given the higher R+D budgets that are backing LCD, including the full might of Sony (which is massive and only backs LCD), it would only be logical that LCD will improve faster than plasma.

[DOD]Asprilla;11113880 said:
...and you're also assuming that manufacturers are only interested in high volume low margin sales as a way to make profit.

Most manufacturers have their R+D budgets and other major decisions in the direction they take, made in boardrooms. The overwhelming aim of any boardroom is to maximise and increase profit. No matter how much a CEO of a company likes plasma, if the figures allow his company to make more profit by going the "high volume, low margin" sales, then he will do this. LCD TVs are allowing companies to do this right now. The only company I can think of right now who are exclusively plasma are Pioneer. There are many companies though who exclusive make LCDs.
 
urban myth.


its the snakes you gotta watch out for.... ;)

nah... the weakness of the samsung plasma is VERY slight green phospher trails on some movies on things like smoke and clouds etc. Barely noticeable but noticeable nonetheless
 
and i'm generally talking about normal home use as well

ie not leaving the tv on one channel overnight....basically if someone is deliberately trying to get screenburn then they could probably achieve it.

But with someone with a bit of common sense there shouldnt be any problems :)
 
I remember reading an extensive comparison in What Hifi, comparing the 2. The samsung got the nod ahead of the Panny. Also I read a reviews for the 2 TVs on the same website and same reviewer - the Samsung won. In both cases though, it was marginal.

The Pioneer Kuro is obviously the best all round set, but the price is also double. Reading the reviews in magazines indicated that the SD images of the Pioneers are not as good as those offered by the Panny and Samsung sets talked about above.

Samsung review: (91%)
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/samsung_ps42q97hdx.htm

Panasonic review: (89%)
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/Panasonic_th42px70.htm

hdtvorg suggests that the Samsung offers better SD images.

what they dont tell you about the samsung is when your watching football and the ball goes up in the air and crowd it starts to judder and the ball starts to tear,thats why i went for the panny but the samsung is also a great set apart from that.and the pioneers are the best but they should be the price you pay,and its not by far either
 
Apparently it’s an known issue (not all sets mind) with the built in freeview tuner I heard a firmware update over the air fixes this?? I wouldn’t know tbh as watching football on my SkyHD box blows me away every time ;) I get absolutely no judder or the effect of the ball disappearing in the crowed at all. My PS50Q97 is the best electrical item I’ve purchased if I’m being honest its madness to think that you can get a 50’ HD set this cheap which produces awesome PQ both SD & HD :D


The only issue I can see with plasmas is the 'buzzing' this took me by surprise as it was louder than I thought, you soon get used to the fact it’s the way plasmas are, it varies with sets as to loud they 'buzz' if at all.
 
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no it happens on HD aswell here is the review and a lot of people i know get it
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-PS50Q97HDX/Picture-Quality.php

On to motion. Now you would expect a plasma to render fast action sport fluidly, and for the most part the Samsung PS50Q97HDX did so outstandingly. But once in a while during the FA Cup final the ball would suddenly undergo tearing and develop jaggies, distorting the shape of the ball. Also, amid these instances judder would be introduced... as if the whole screen shook for just a second.
 
Not on my set it doesn’t, don’t get a hint of judder nor the ball disappearing like he said it could be his specific set I know a lot of people on the AV forums don’t get this issue while some do.
 
screenburn on a plasma isn't a urband myth, I've seen it on a local dealers Pioneer.
There a big difference between a dealer and a home user

Many Retail Dealers would have the brightness & contrast cranked right up for show room use,,,Plus they most likely leave things like a DVD title screen/ or the same short demo running for hours/days/weeks on end...
 
Not on my set it doesn’t, don’t get a hint of judder nor the ball disappearing like he said it could be his specific set I know a lot of people on the AV forums don’t get this issue while some do.

was going to get this set fothsn but when i read that a few of my m8s on av forums said they had it aswell changed me mind and went for the 50px70,but both sets get good write ups so its down to which you like the best m8
 
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