Yes you are correct regarding the niggles. Really this is a car for people who do not care about and are not interested in cars isn't it?
Kia Ceed... 7 year of 100'000 miles warranty.
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Yes you are correct regarding the niggles. Really this is a car for people who do not care about and are not interested in cars isn't it?
i rented one in cyprus and was quiet impressed with it, seamed well made and more importantly wasnt bad off road, 
only a 1.4 petrol seam much better than the last cheap asian hire car i had and i thought if this was given to me i wouldnt mind (not that i buy one, just not what i'd want){ but 7 year warrant is very good.
only a 1.4 petrol seam much better than the last cheap asian hire car i had and i thought if this was given to me i wouldnt mind (not that i buy one, just not what i'd want){ but 7 year warrant is very good.
Depends, if the same warranty was available on their smaller cars, I'd seriously consider one for my runabout, and I don't think I qualify as someone not interested or caring about cars. I would never have one as an only car though.
It depends what purpose you buy the car for really, and therefore what your expectations and needs are. For a low cost, low maintainance cost, don't care where you park it or how you treat it car, it could well be a very good buy provided you were planning on keeping it for the full 7 years and then prepared to pretty much give it away or run it until it just dies.
It's a car you can treat like any other household appliance, basically.
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First - the 7 year warranty, that's only surprising to us, in UK, the same car from Hyuindai, literally just different exterior (the i30) has 5 year warranty while Cee'd in US carry 10 years warranty. It doesn't mean Hyundai is less optimistic about reliability of the same base car than Kia, or that both manufacturers think the same car will break less in United States, it's just a matter of that extended warranty being included in the price of car in one form or another. So - as an example - in year six you can come back to main dealer to replace broken plastic trim, which costs them 50p to manufacture, but for those six years they get to keep you on short leash of rather pricey servicing, consumables or the warranty goes bye bye. It's not a bad deal and it's excercised in US for ages now - Ford Focus in UK has 1 year manufacturer warranty + 2 years dealer warranty, in Czech or Poland it's 2 years manufacturer warranty and in US it's 5 years bumper to bumper manufacturer warranty plus additional 2 years on drive train. What does that tell ya?
Now, the Cee'd. It's not a bad car as such, in the same way as Hinari microwave or Bush alarm clock is not bad "per say". It does the job. It has 4 wheels. It's improvement over previous Kia cars (which in all honesty, is not exactly hard to do). And among all the "European design" and "better materials" it's a product that is "almost as good as" rather than stand alone contender. It starts with design cues:
Inside space was sized for Astra, but it lacks the space of Astra
The boot measurement in litres was to challenge Focus, but it's nowhere near as big or practical for large items
Drivetrain was to match Civic but it's nowhere as precise, nippy or rev happy
Stability and driving experience was to match Golf, but it doesn't hold the road like one or drive like one
What it does however is ask for the price of every one of these cars. Kia Cee'd is not a bargain, it's not even reasonably priced for what effectively is The Bush TV set to your Panasonic or the Marks And Spencers jeans instead of your Levi's.
Personally I found Cee'd to be slightly crashy on town streets, and I can have crashy in Nissan Almera, for 3.5 grand less. I found it to be slightly numb and ever so slightly wobbly when breaking on motorway, and I can have numb and wobbly in Astra Club for 1 grand less. I liked mp3 socket, but hated violently rouge radio display which was hidiously difficult to read and, what's much worse, reflected in front screen. The soft touch plastics were ok, but it was more of a last decade Renault OK, than new Golf OK. And my overall feeling was that this car, is about half a decade too late. It is a good contender to the last Astra, not this one. It feels like old Civic, not the current one. It's alternative to the previous Octavia, not new one. Last Corolla. The discontinued Almera.
Looked at the estate as well, but mostly due to the price, decided there were simply better estates to be had for less money. The salesman said "yes but none will offer 7 year warranty". Which was true. But Kia Cee'd is not the kind of car which you would ever keep for 7 years. Even if it was to be just astravan for British Gas, it would still have to be 3 grand cheaper and serviceable on every street corner for 20p every 20,000 miles...
Now, the Cee'd. It's not a bad car as such, in the same way as Hinari microwave or Bush alarm clock is not bad "per say". It does the job. It has 4 wheels. It's improvement over previous Kia cars (which in all honesty, is not exactly hard to do). And among all the "European design" and "better materials" it's a product that is "almost as good as" rather than stand alone contender. It starts with design cues:
Inside space was sized for Astra, but it lacks the space of Astra
The boot measurement in litres was to challenge Focus, but it's nowhere near as big or practical for large items
Drivetrain was to match Civic but it's nowhere as precise, nippy or rev happy
Stability and driving experience was to match Golf, but it doesn't hold the road like one or drive like one
What it does however is ask for the price of every one of these cars. Kia Cee'd is not a bargain, it's not even reasonably priced for what effectively is The Bush TV set to your Panasonic or the Marks And Spencers jeans instead of your Levi's.
Personally I found Cee'd to be slightly crashy on town streets, and I can have crashy in Nissan Almera, for 3.5 grand less. I found it to be slightly numb and ever so slightly wobbly when breaking on motorway, and I can have numb and wobbly in Astra Club for 1 grand less. I liked mp3 socket, but hated violently rouge radio display which was hidiously difficult to read and, what's much worse, reflected in front screen. The soft touch plastics were ok, but it was more of a last decade Renault OK, than new Golf OK. And my overall feeling was that this car, is about half a decade too late. It is a good contender to the last Astra, not this one. It feels like old Civic, not the current one. It's alternative to the previous Octavia, not new one. Last Corolla. The discontinued Almera.
Looked at the estate as well, but mostly due to the price, decided there were simply better estates to be had for less money. The salesman said "yes but none will offer 7 year warranty". Which was true. But Kia Cee'd is not the kind of car which you would ever keep for 7 years. Even if it was to be just astravan for British Gas, it would still have to be 3 grand cheaper and serviceable on every street corner for 20p every 20,000 miles...
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By year 6 and 7 only the engine and drive train is covered, so the above isn't strictly true.
We've got one of these in work. A fleeting glance revealed a lot of kit including half leather/cruise and climate too I think plus a bloody MP3 connector thing that I don't even have in my car ;/
Torquey little 1.6 diesel lump, tis a good work horse for the moola.
Torquey little 1.6 diesel lump, tis a good work horse for the moola.
Where did you get that from, it's not mentioned in the Kia information.
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The local Kia/FIAT dealer.
It used to be the case when it was launched - the 5+2 warranty. But because people found it confusing the Cee'd now has 7 year bumper to bumper warranty. What's even more interesting is that base warranty was extended to unlimited mileage, so it's now 3 years with unlimited mileage and 3 -7 years with 100,000 miles limit... But then if you do over 30,000 miles a year, chances are you don't want to do them in Korean hatchback...
I think a lot of people on here are too young to remember the image that Skoda used to have (ie far worse than Kia!) and look at the good cars they are producing now. Or going back further still, the image that Japanese bikes used to have.
Just because they started off producing crap doesn't mean that they cant develop into decent cars.
Just because they started off producing crap doesn't mean that they cant develop into decent cars.
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Kia aren't producing good cars yet, they are still very crude.
My brother (apprentice at local Kia/FIAT dealer) sent an email off to Kia asking if the Sportage wants synthetic gearbox oil, the reply was "What is synthetic oil?"
My parents have got a top of the range Kia Rio and the car runs very well to be honest. It doesnt feel cheap inside and its a quite capable car with plenty of room.
One thing that has changed is that now they are made in Europe.
One thing that has changed is that now they are made in Europe.
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Reminds me of that american salesman who clocked up a million miles in a civic hatchback over 10 years
Now my Auntie has a Kia Rio 1.5 Diesel and to be honest, it is not bad but not good either. The seats/suspension is hard and every bump or speed hump can be felt if going faster than walking speed. Heavy on tyres as a front set only lasted 7,000 miles from new registration of the car with 3 miles on the clock.
Only plus side is the diesel is very economical and punchy, but other than not a car I would buy, plus put 2 bags in the boot and it has no more room left for other shopping.
Only plus side is the diesel is very economical and punchy, but other than not a car I would buy, plus put 2 bags in the boot and it has no more room left for other shopping.
