Car accident - advice needed.

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Just wanted to get a few opinions really, sorry for post length.

I had an accident in the car a couple of weeks ago, basically I was turning right (into a driveway to turn around) and a car following me hit me, though as I was halfway through making the turn it hit me almost side-on rather than squarely from behind.

There was a fair amount of damage to both cars (but no injuries - low speed accident), so it's going through the insurance companies. Details were exchanged at the scene, and no other people stopped or offered to be witnesses.

When I reported the incident to my insurance company, they told me I would not be considered at fault since the car that hit me was following me - which sounds reasonable.

However, the driver of the car following is now alleging that I was not indicating right (untrue), that I pulled sharply to the left before the accident (untrue), and that I was trying to make a u-turn (untrue).

I've just had a letter from their solicitors saying the accident was "clearly caused by my negligence" and that they have written to my insurors to get them to admit my liability.

1. Is it usual for people to lie to try and weasel out of it when they realise they're in the wrong?

2. Do insurance companies always make a speculative effort to try to get the blame shifted to the "other" driver, or do they only try if they think there are reasonable grounds?

3. What happens when there are no independant witnesses? I had 3 passengers in my car who back me up, the other drive had 2 passengers who back him (or her) up. There were no 3rd party witnesses who stopped, I assume the other party has not suddenly "found" some. So it's pretty much my word against his.

4. Are disputes like this always handled purely by the insurance companies and their appointed solicitors? Or do they go to court etc? Do I have to do anything myself?

5. The other party's solicitor hasn't asked me to do anything other than to "contact my own insurance company". Do I have to reply to them if they ask me to contact them directly?

6. I went to the Police in the evening, several hours after the accident to ask for a bit of advice. I took all my documentation and explained what happened, but they did not want me to officially report the accident. Since there were no injuries and full details were exchanged at the scene. The officer told me the Police would not be interested in this, but is it posisble this could change if the other party is alleging I did something illegal (are u-turns even illegal??)?

Sorry for all the questions, I've never been involved in an accident before so I have no idea what needs to be done. Also, my insurance company are proving virtually impossible to contact about this, though have apparently authorised the repair of my car.

Cheers.

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Police only report accidents where there is a personal injury at the scene. As long as both parties exchange details it's nothing to do with them. If a driving offence was comitted at the time of the collision, and police did not attend the scene at the time, nothing will happen regarding police now.
 
You should be alright. He was obviously too close to you, and should have avoided you even if you decided to do a handbrake turn in the middle of the road.

So his fault. Dont admit liablility, your insurance wont want to do that either as its them that pay!!!

So you win :D
 
However, the driver of the car following is now alleging that I was not indicating right (untrue), that I pulled sharply to the left before the accident (untrue), and that I was trying to make a u-turn (untrue).

Regardless, she shouldn't of been so close behind.


I've just had a letter from their solicitors saying the accident was "clearly caused by my negligence" and that they have written to my insurors to get them to admit my liability.
1. Is it usual for people to lie to try and weasel out of it when they realise they're in the wrong?


Far too Often..

2. Do insurance companies always make a speculative effort to try to get the blame shifted to the "other" driver, or do they only try if they think there are reasonable grounds?

Answered your own question there me thinks

3. What happens when there are no independant witnesses? I had 3 passengers in my car who back me up, the other drive had 2 passengers who back him (or her) up. There were no 3rd party witnesses who stopped, I assume the other party has not suddenly "found" some. So it's pretty much my word against his.

Again, he hit you from behind.

4. Are disputes like this always handled purely by the insurance companies and their appointed solicitors? Or do they go to court etc? Do I have to do anything myself?

Don't think it goes to court that often tbh

5. The other party's solicitor hasn't asked me to do anything other than to "contact my own insurance company". Do I have to reply to them if they ask me to contact them directly?

Do EVERYTHING through your insurance company, keep any correspondance and photocopy and send it to them if they ask for it.

6. I went to the Police in the evening, several hours after the accident to ask for a bit of advice. I took all my documentation and explained what happened, but they did not want me to officially report the accident. Since there were no injuries and full details were exchanged at the scene. The officer told me the Police would not be interested in this, but is it posisble this could change if the other party is alleging I did something illegal (are u-turns even illegal??)?

Its a civil matter, not criminal..
 
People always try and weasel out of accidents like this.

Don't give in, stand firm, and if they have any sense, they'll see that it was the other persons fault.

Then throw in a fake whiplash injury for trying to be cheeky and get out of it ;)
 
the fact that he hit you side-on means he wasn't paying attention, as you had time to turn before he hit you meaning there should have been a few seconds for him to react..

even if you weren't indicating, he should have been able to swerve round you.
you should be fine :)
 
Unfortunatly this is how most cases turn out; instead of admitting fault they try to get out of it.

I remember some chick caused me to smash my wheels, she stayed in her car on the phone then gets out and says "My bf says deny everything so I deny doing the damage and I am not liable", should have smashed her windows and denied it and drove off.

So anyway, don't worry about it and don't admit liability.

Do you have legal cover on your insurance? Everything should go through insurers don't do personal responses and make sure your insurers know about this. Very likely you will not be liable, it's just you have to go the longway of sorting this out.
 
Thanks guys, that's all basically what I'd hoped/assumed.

The other drivers insurance company phoned me the other day to "tell me what their client had said and get my side of the story", so I told them how I saw it, and baically said "I could have handbraked it round and jumped out and danced in the road naked - he was still behind and should have avoided the obstruction".

If they try contacting me again I'll just refer them to my insurance company. It just seems the other partys insurors are being quite active, whereas mine haven't appeared to do much yet as for as I can see!

I wrote a 4 page report straight after the accident, and included photos, maps, diagrams etc but my insurance company weren't interested in it so it's sat on my PC. I guess I'll keep it in case I need to refer back to it in future though....

Cheers, I feel a bit less stressed now! :)
 
Do not reply to the letter, forward it to your insurers.

They don't appear to have an address for me to forward it to - just a 24hr "helpline" which is only open 9am - 5pm. :rolleyes:

I'll try them again tomorrow though, cheers.

Incidentally the Solicitors acting for the other party spelled my name completely and utterly wrong - not a good advert for them! :o
 
It matters not what you were apparently doing according to the other party, the other driver wasn't paying attention/was too close and therefore hit you, so I can't see there being any outcome other than rightly in your favour.
 
When I reported the incident to my insurance company, they told me I would not be considered at fault since the car that hit me was following me - which sounds reasonable.

It is reasonable - I agree with them.

However, the driver of the car following is now alleging that I was not indicating right (untrue), that I pulled sharply to the left before the accident (untrue), and that I was trying to make a u-turn (untrue).

Even if all 3 of these were true, he would still have at least partial, probably even full, blame for the accident. He was following you, he hit you.

I've just had a letter from their solicitors saying the accident was "clearly caused by my negligence" and that they have written to my insurors to get them to admit my liability.

This is completely standard right down to the wording. Do not be concerned by the wording.

1. Is it usual for people to lie to try and weasel out of it when they realise they're in the wrong?

Yes.
 
What a cheeky scumbag! I don't see how he thinks he can get away with it because the way he's telling it, he saw you swerve left, then try and perform a u-turn and still managed to hit you, which makes him too close!
 
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