Whilst that is true, is the best way to address this not to ban the idiots from owning them?
I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it'd stop some of the idiots wanting dogs at all if they couldn't easily get hold of 'ard ones.
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Whilst that is true, is the best way to address this not to ban the idiots from owning them?
I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it'd stop some of the idiots wanting dogs at all if they couldn't easily get hold of 'ard ones.
I don't think it'd stop some idiot wanting to boost his ego by having a mean looking dog, they'd probably just end up with the next 'ardest looking one or some poorly trained, temprementaly unsound crossbreed.
The dog should be indeed judged on individual casing, I know a range of 'dangerous dogs' who happen to be soft as poop.
Nonetheless, in a society where people cannot be trusted to responsibly train their dogs it is important to know that the levels of tolerance between breeds varies dramatically.
It is these 'dangerous dogs' that tend to have substantially shorter levels of tolerance- and incidents such as a child stroking a dog who accidentally pokes its eye/pulls ears/slaps it that blows the lid, and ends up in savaging/attacks.
Breeds like labradors/spaniels etc, traditionally 'safe' dogs have such high tolerance- almost infinate it would seem- and if/when they do get annoyed enough they might well have a nip. But again this is where the 'dangerous breeds' earn theyre titles, the fighting dogs' nature isn't to let go, is to shake, savage etc.
Although I feel every dog is individual, I cannot agree with the petition as it is undeniable that certain breeds have less tolerance and more severe reactions than others.
Nonetheless, in a society where people cannot be trusted to responsibly train their dogs it is important to know that the levels of tolerance between breeds varies dramatically.
It is these 'dangerous dogs' that tend to have substantially shorter levels of tolerance- and incidents such as a child stroking a dog who accidentally pokes its eye/pulls ears/slaps it that blows the lid, and ends up in savaging/attacks.
Breeds like labradors/spaniels etc, traditionally 'safe' dogs have such high tolerance- almost infinate it would seem- and if/when they do get annoyed enough they might well have a nip. But again this is where the 'dangerous breeds' earn theyre titles, the fighting dogs' nature isn't to let go, is to shake, savage etc.
Although I feel every dog is individual, I cannot agree with the petition as it is undeniable that certain breeds have less tolerance and more severe reactions than others.
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No, I won't sign it.
Having witnessed two dog attacks (one on another dog, one on a person) I have a strong desire to see all dogs widely considered as 'Dangerous Dogs' removed from public ownership.
It's not that they bite, most dogs will if provoked. It's the way that they clamp down on whatever they attack with such strength that grown men cannot free the hold and then savage it.
Using the "it's ok, my pitbull won't bite" (but if he does he'll grab hold of your infant's face and then rip the skin clean off) argument is as valid as "It's ok, my tiger is completely tame" (but if he does attack he'll bite your head clean off).
Having witnessed two dog attacks (one on another dog, one on a person) I have a strong desire to see all dogs widely considered as 'Dangerous Dogs' removed from public ownership.
It's not that they bite, most dogs will if provoked. It's the way that they clamp down on whatever they attack with such strength that grown men cannot free the hold and then savage it.
Using the "it's ok, my pitbull won't bite" (but if he does he'll grab hold of your infant's face and then rip the skin clean off) argument is as valid as "It's ok, my tiger is completely tame" (but if he does attack he'll bite your head clean off).
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These threads always make me laugh, lots of people with opinions who have little to no experience of dogs, especially dangerous breeds.
I have always been around dogs since the age of 2, over a year ago I saw an episode of 'The Dog Whisperer' on sky. Since then I have read everything possible about dog behaviour, training and psychology. I volunteer at a couple of local dog rescue centers and work with many breeds of dogs that can be considered dangerous, and several dogs that are dangerous.
All animals have the ability to be dangerous, no matter the type or size of the animal. To say that dogs can't be dangerous is a lie, to say that certain breeds of dogs aren't more prone to being dangerous is also a lie. However, that doesn't mean that all dogs of that breed are potential killers.
I work with a lot of pit bulls in the rescue centres, on the whole they are lovely dogs. One or two have had some psychological issues that made them potentially dangerous dogs but we moved past that and now they are friendly & socialable dogs. The only dog I have ever been bitten by was a jack Russell, a little guy with a serious complex, it is going to take some time to sort him hopefully.
How dangerous an individual dog is comes from the person who cares for it. Some dogs have underlying tendancies for violence that can be nutured by those so inclined, hence the reason that pitbulls, rotty's, Dobermanns etc are considered more dangerous, its because the wrong sort of people are allowed to own these dogs. The Rottweiler for instance is actually a herding dog, its only man that turned him into a guard dog.
We need to bring back dog licensing for a start, have strict rules and regulations about who can own what dogs.
Until real investigations are undertaken no one can state what laws are needed regarding dog ownership. One problem we have is that the media love a dangerous breed attack story.
I have always been around dogs since the age of 2, over a year ago I saw an episode of 'The Dog Whisperer' on sky. Since then I have read everything possible about dog behaviour, training and psychology. I volunteer at a couple of local dog rescue centers and work with many breeds of dogs that can be considered dangerous, and several dogs that are dangerous.
All animals have the ability to be dangerous, no matter the type or size of the animal. To say that dogs can't be dangerous is a lie, to say that certain breeds of dogs aren't more prone to being dangerous is also a lie. However, that doesn't mean that all dogs of that breed are potential killers.
I work with a lot of pit bulls in the rescue centres, on the whole they are lovely dogs. One or two have had some psychological issues that made them potentially dangerous dogs but we moved past that and now they are friendly & socialable dogs. The only dog I have ever been bitten by was a jack Russell, a little guy with a serious complex, it is going to take some time to sort him hopefully.
How dangerous an individual dog is comes from the person who cares for it. Some dogs have underlying tendancies for violence that can be nutured by those so inclined, hence the reason that pitbulls, rotty's, Dobermanns etc are considered more dangerous, its because the wrong sort of people are allowed to own these dogs. The Rottweiler for instance is actually a herding dog, its only man that turned him into a guard dog.
We need to bring back dog licensing for a start, have strict rules and regulations about who can own what dogs.
Until real investigations are undertaken no one can state what laws are needed regarding dog ownership. One problem we have is that the media love a dangerous breed attack story.
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send me a link ill sign it
I would certainly sign this petition!! Seeing how some people treat their dogs sickens me
The problem is not the dogs, it's the owners.
It's the idiots who have got Pitbulls banned, now they get Staffies. So we ban Staffies, they get Akitas. So we ban Akitas, they will get Bullmastiffs and it just goes on and on.
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I would certainly sign this petition!! Seeing how some people treat their dogs sickens me
make that too i would sign it as well
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Fair comment as Dangerous Dogs are classifed by type not breed. Edited accordingly.
People still keep Pitbulls in the UK. I 'know' of one or two, through friends. So I dont know WHO they are, or WHERE they are but they exist.
I disagree with the petition too - you'd have to be a complete tool to believe that all breeds can be as dangerous as each other - I doubt a poodle or chihuahua would have a hope in hell of causing the same damage as a pit bull or rottweiler.
Tbh... dogs ought to be licensed and the owners made to attend, pay for and pass a basic obedience test with the dog. Just as someone would have to do in order to drive a car.
I don't have a problem with dogs in general but little ****** with pit bull look alike dogs that blatantly haven't been trained and are only there to intimidate people need to have them taken away. Forcing people to pay a fee and take the time to train their dog (something normal owners do anyway) and allowing police to confiscate dogs from ****** who are non compliant ought to do a bit to resolve the problem.
Tbh... dogs ought to be licensed and the owners made to attend, pay for and pass a basic obedience test with the dog. Just as someone would have to do in order to drive a car.
I don't have a problem with dogs in general but little ****** with pit bull look alike dogs that blatantly haven't been trained and are only there to intimidate people need to have them taken away. Forcing people to pay a fee and take the time to train their dog (something normal owners do anyway) and allowing police to confiscate dogs from ****** who are non compliant ought to do a bit to resolve the problem.
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Oh please, a whippet could kill a small child and a Chihuahua could easily kill a toddler. Does this not make them dangerous?
If people are responsible and recieved proper training in how to be a 'pack leader' (disclipline, reward etc) then there would be very few dog attacks.
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This, tbh. I'm unsure how this can be considered opinion and not fact. How many of those who have posted actually own dogs?
Nope, I'd bet a toddler could 'ave a chihuahua easy and whippets are one of the friendliest breeds of dog there is, unless you're a rabbit.
Incidentally my ex's hamster bit my daughters finger the other day, we haven't reported it as it didn't quite break the skin. Might try the 'pack leader' thing on it though. Does it work with chavs?
