Poll: Candid photography involving children

Would you be happy if someone took pictures of your child in a public place?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 40.4%
  • No

    Votes: 106 59.6%

  • Total voters
    178
One of the main points of candid photography is that there is no intrusion. You want a natural picture that isn't posed/disturbed by the photographer. In done correctly the subject would probably never know they had been photographed.

Changing the law would do nothing to protect children. If someone wants to film a child for illicit reasons they will do so regardless because they (just like you) don't seem to care about the law. They'll just have a video camera hidden in their bag or something like that. All it a law would do is place ever more restrictions on the decent people who abide by it.

It's already the case where most parents aren't allowed to photograph their own children in school plays/sports events. Maybe you want to live in a world where the police demand proof that you children are in fact your children when they see you taking a photograph of them in the park by I don't.

I would be perfectly happy to identify to the Police as the father of my daughter, so long as it means they would stop some stranger who I dont want taking taking photos of her.

The case about plays and childrens own parents, obviously is not what I am defending and I feel its an overreaction, or even just a crafty way of protecting the business of the 'official' photographer for the event.
 
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Haven't a clue where my reply has gone (pretty sure I gave an opinion).

Interesting discussion here.
 
I, like you, feel it smacks of intrusion. And I am a father. And if a stranger intrudes into my daughters life without my permission, I stop him, preferably by non-violent means of course.

unfortunately the law doesnt agree with you. The paparazzi are perfectly within their legal right to take photos of celebrities falling out of nighclubs drunk at 3am making fools of themselves, sneaking out the back doors of hotels with their mistresses, or just plain harassing them photographing them wherever they go whether they like it not.

There is nothing legally that you can do to stop somebody taking a photo of your child. If they're in a public place, you have no grounds to ask them to stop. Why do you think theres so many incidents of stars attacking the paparazzi ? They are powerless to stop them taking photos

Whether you like it or not, if you do attempt to stop them, youre the one comitting the crime, not them.
 
It's only wrong if the reason for taking the photos is wrong.
Neither the girl or her dad (I presume her dad, was the adult with her) seemed to care. They both saw the three of us walking the main paths taking their picture ( we were quite noticable), and they didnt give us a second glance.
Neither did the guy on the jetty who was talking on his phone and smiled at me just before I took his picture, nor did the old man on the bench, nor did the old lady as the toddler next to her threw another piece of bread at the geese, nor did the woman who leant down to give her son something then turned and looked straight at me as I was taking their picture, then went back to her breadgiving - quite clearly unbothered.... Nor did the grandfather/father/son trio. None of them cared in the slightest.
There were some who didnt notice me and some who did (it's shocking how many people can see you when you arent hiding in the bushes.... :rolleyes: ).
Of those that did, none took more than a half seconds notice, and (amazingly considering all the violent people in here! ;) ) not one single disgruntled parent came over, took my camera and threw it in the lake after breaking my jaw.
If they didn't take any offense then who are you to take it on their behalf?

Exactly right.


I have taken possibly thousands of pictures at various swimming comps over the years, and I have ever had one single person come up to me directly, or even heard of anyone indirectly complaining of pictures being taken of their kids. I have also taken loads of pics of people going about their daily business, if a situation seems worthy of a picture to capture that moment for posterity, I will take that picture without a second thought for who may complain, if someone does then I will happily delete the picture, but no-one ever has.

I personally believe that there is a lot of people on here that are over reacting to a non event.

I am a father and if I had ever noticed any one taking pics of us, I may ask to see the pics, and would probably ask for copies if they are any good, but that would be as far as it goes, I would never resort to violence (it solves nothing).

If you are out and about and trying to capture moments like this, and you are about to press the shutter but you have to stop to think, ohh, who is in the picture, who are the parents of any kids about, who may complain if I take this picture, what if this, what if that, then most likely you will miss the picture you first saw and intended to capture.

That is the whole esscence of candids, they are spur of the moment, instant captures of a moment that may never happen again, the capture of an expression, an incident, and event, that cannot be staged or recreated, (if you try, you take away the whole spontineity of the moment).
If you have to stop and think before pressing the shutter, you may as well pack up all your gear and sell it on fleabay because the whole excitement of capturiing that instant will be taken out of the equation.
 
I wouldn't have a problem if my child was in someone's photo. :)

However, if my child was more of a focus on the piece/centre/key part of the photo I would expect through politeness and common courtesy for the photographer to ask permission :)

What the person chooses to do with those photos afterwards is also a matter for consideration and if anything unusual was the intention, again I would expect for the photography to ask permission. (whether this is before or afterwards is upto the situation - after all the magic moments might not be the same if they are aware of being photographed)

Edit: It is near impossible to tell if any of the millions of photographers might happen to have paedophillic tendancies or anything similar, but I'm certainly not going to tread on the toes of the 99.99% of decent photographers/people enjoying a hobby due to fear of such previously mentioned scumbags.
 
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It would be interesting to see if the poll results would change if the photgraphers gender was made a factor.

How many of the 'No' responses might change if it was specifically mentioned that the photographer was a woman?

I mention this because I was talking about this with my wife last night, and she said something along the lines of 'If I saw some 'bloke' taking pictures of my kids, then I'd have a problem with it'. She didn't see it as so much of an issue with a 'nice lady photographer' though.

Reading back through some of the threads, everybody when they've mentioned the photographer, I think, has referred to the photographer as a 'him'.

I guess the way parents feel about all of this comes down to perceived threats, and I wonder if this has got anything to do with the responses so far?
 
It would be interesting to see if the poll results would change if the photgraphers gender was made a factor.

How many of the 'No' responses might change if it was specifically mentioned that the photographer was a woman?

I mention this because I was talking about this with my wife last night, and she said something along the lines of 'If I saw some 'bloke' taking pictures of my kids, then I'd have a problem with it'. She didn't see it as so much of an issue with a 'nice lady photographer' though.

Reading back through some of the threads, everybody when they've mentioned the photographer, I think, has referred to the photographer as a 'him'.

I guess the way parents feel about all of this comes down to perceived threats, and I wonder if this has got anything to do with the responses so far?

Good point! No one ever expects a women to be a risk to children, only men. It would making an interesting addition to the poll since the majority who don't like the idea of someone taking pictures of their families say it's due to the intrusion of privacy factor/just not liking the idea of a stranger having pictures. If this is the case the gender of the photographer shouldn't affect their views. However if they don't like the photographs because of a concern about the photographers intentions (i.e. maybe they're getting off on them) then the gender will likely make a difference.

I strongly believe that people are backlashing against photographers because of the media convincing everyone that their child is in constant danger, that if they turn their backs for 5mins some pedophile will snatch their kids away, and as a further insult the whole event will be seen as the parents fault "what where they thinking leaving their kids alone, obviously somethings going to happen".
 
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I would be perfectly happy to identify to the Police as the father of my daughter, so long as it means they would stop some stranger who I dont want taking taking photos of her.

Personally I wouldn't like the idea of having to justify myself to the police. What if you didn't have photo id for yourself and your daughter? If such a law came in the officer would probably have to escort you from the park and take you to the station until your identities can be verified/interview your children to assertain as to whether they call you dad because that's who they are or because you've convinced/forced them to call you that.

The case about plays and childrens own parents, obviously is not what I am defending and I feel its an overreaction, or even just a crafty way of protecting the business of the 'official' photographer for the event.

Well it's certainly an overreaction! :)
 
I think anybody who voted YES is insane, or is a pedophile, and shouldent be allowed to be a parent.

You're saying you would freely let a 60 year old pervert, with yellow teeth, bushy long grey hair, 10 inch beard with a dirty green wooly-hat and sunglasses from poundland, take severlal full frame photos of your son/daughter, and be happy about it?

You are all extremely sad to allow your children to be used like that by a complete stranger.

I read a post by another guy saying he'd take a look at the pics and even ask for a copy himself, WTF???

Oh god AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH, my heads gonna effin explode. id better stay away from this topic before i go crazy. :mad:
 
How would the parent know the person is a 'pervert' and not simply a photographer taking candid shots?

Should everybody automatically assume the worst? In reality it is a tiny amount of people that will be doing it for less than honourable reasons. Not to mention, anyone that is taking them in the open probably has nothing to hide... you likely wouldn't know they had been taken if it was by a 'pervert'.

I haven't voted in the poll so I guess I'm excluded from the 40% of people you consider to be insane paedophiles :rolleyes:
 
I think anybody who voted YES is insane, or is a pedophile, and shouldent be allowed to be a parent.

You're saying you would freely let a 60 year old pervert, with yellow teeth, bushy long grey hair, 10 inch beard with a dirty green wooly-hat and sunglasses from poundland, take severlal full frame photos of your son/daughter, and be happy about it?

You are all extremely sad to allow your children to be used like that by a complete stranger.

I read a post by another guy saying he'd take a look at the pics and even ask for a copy himself, WTF???

Oh god AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH, my heads gonna effin explode. id better stay away from this topic before i go crazy. :mad:


ahahahaha
 
Why are they?

I think anybody who voted YES is insane, or is a pedophile, and shouldent be allowed to be a parent.

I think the parents are insane and shouldent be allowed to parent because they are not protecting their children, they might as well throw them away.

OR

I think they are pedophiles because they like to take pics of children themselves, and are voting YES, because it dosent matter to them as they do it all the time.

Or if they ARE pedos AND have children themselves, they wouldent mind giving fellow pedos their children. SO they sare "happy" with their children being photoraphed by fellow pedos, as the title of the poll says.
 
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