Car drivers - STOP TRYING TO KILL AND/OR HURT ME

I'm amazed/appalled at people's reactions to Mohinder's recent encounters with idiot car drivers! It really makes me worry about being on the roads, in a car or on a bike or even walking on the pavement if people just assume that because they are driving they can run anybody over/off the road and have that sort of attitude.

Unlucky on the encounters Mohinder, glad nothing serious has happened. :)

InvG
 
I always experience this kind of stuff on my bike, some people i'm amazed they can put the key in the ignition and turn it, let alone pass a driving test.
 
Car drivers are **holes(especially women), you have to adapt. In the 20 years I have been riding a motorbike I have not been in a accident with a car. You just have to predict their every move. If there is a junction & a car then ride like it WILL PULL OUT.
Actually a taxi pulled out in front of me when I was driving my bright orange 110 landrover. Suffice to say he came off much much worse :D :D

If the idiot didnt see that then yes you are right, what chance do we stand :(

Fully star out your swear words

Gilly
 
Ive never used a bike but i know plenty of people who do. I always make a point of checking for bikes where most drivers would only give a quick glance in the mirror. Id say 9 out of 10 bike riders are sensible and try to place themselves in a position that offers the best view to the car driver in front ie "making sure they are seen". I even go so far on occasions that require it to make eye contact ( in the mirror usually ) with the biker and nod or even genture to let him know that ive seen him and know he is there. Often the biker will return the signal and give me a nod or something.

There are on accasion complete tools who ride bikes and try to read the label on the back of my shirt, i assume this is what they are doing seeing as they are so close. I generally make a point of giving them ample room to overtake like the screamin banshee they think they are!

Most car drivers just dont make a point of looking for bikes, especially when pulling out from a junction.
 
I use a push bike quite a bit, and even tho I often do not go above 20mph, I still have had some extremely close calls...

I feel your pain, but as you say it's beyond your control, so there not much that can be done really, unless you go off road or something... :(
 
Kick off their mirrors ;) :D

Agree with this. I have a friend who swears by it. Cross him, and you lose a mirror. Would imagine some people in the thread wont like that, but the fact is, if you don't keep your eyes open and show a little consideration you risk taking a bikers life..
 
What the ****?

I don't understand this. People do things that are beyond my control which endanger me, and people in this thread are suggesting it's my fault? Are you mental?

I adapted to her stupidity by coming to a rather sharp stop as opposed to hitting her front wing and being flung through the air, I'd say that was pretty adaptive.

The way you're talking, you sound like you think I have no right to expect to ride a motorbike without people crashing into me, like they're doing nothing wrong and aren't to blame.

Do you drive around with your eyes shut?

You are posting on a predominently car orientated forum. Most car drivers wont appreciate just how bad it can be when you're out and about on your bike.

I don't get mad about it anymore as someone tries to kill me everytime I ride (no one has been good enough to get me.....yet), you just have to adjust your riding to suit. Its no good being right but dead. I'd recommend doing some rider training courses to help with positioning, reading the road and hazards ahead. The police run bikesafe courses are good too.

It sucks that we have to go to these lengths to stay alive, but you do have to remember that the average car driver is a moron who is concentrating on anything but driving :D

Fog

Edit: Be careful using your headlight in the day. It can seem as though you are flashing your headlamp when you go over bumps in the road. I've stopped using mine in the day and get a lot less people pulling out on me from junctions.
 
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Calm down.

The way you are talking, it sounds like you can't see how to make it stop, hence that is you being stupid. It wasn't an entirely serious remark and was regarding the Darwin comment someone made.

There is no way to make it stop, people drive around with their eyes shut and you have to assume everyone's not looking where they're going - because largely they're not - and I wanted a rant. The whole attitude of 'well you're the weirdo who wants to ride a bike, so it's basically your fault' irks me.

People could just look where they're going, but apparently it's too much trouble for you cagers :p

I don't get mad about it anymore as someone tries to kill me everytime I ride (no one has been good enough to get me.....yet), you just have to adjust your riding to suit. Its no good being right but dead. I'd recommend doing some rider training courses to help with positioning, reading the road and hazards ahead. The police run bikesafe courses are good too.

There's certain situations where no amount of defensive riding (which I do practice) will get you out of it, like the woman hitting me on the A13 the other day.

Thing is, I don't just ride at weekends in nice weather like I'd like to, I ride probably 6 days a week the majority of the time. Commuters use up their lives quicker, it sucks! As soon as I can afford it the bike will become a toy, but at the moment sadly it's a tool, and lots of hours in the saddle, especially at morning rush hour/hometime means more dimwits trying to take you out :(

I hate the A13.
 
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I have a theory.

There was an article not long back where a rider was killed at night on the motorway, I think he was riding an early blade with twin round headlights. According to the driver he checked his mirror and saw a distant car, pulled into the lane straight into the biker who was then run over by other vechiles as he lay on the floor. Obviously very very dead.

I've got twin round lamps on my NC30 and I only ever ride with one at night because I can see how it could happen.

Defensive riding can only do so much becuase you'll always get a numpty who hasn't even bothered looking, it happens so fast its just down to your reactions and seeing what is going to happen. Obviously the OP is on the ball when it comes to avoiding the crazy cagers!
 
There's certain situations where no amount of defensive riding (which I do practice) will get you out of it, like the woman hitting me on the A13 the other day.

Thing is, I don't just ride at weekends in nice weather like I'd like to, I ride probably 6 days a week the majority of the time. Commuters use up their lives quicker, it sucks! As soon as I can afford it the bike will become a toy, but at the moment sadly it's a tool, and lots of hours in the saddle, especially at morning rush hour/hometime means more dimwits trying to take you out :(

I hate the A13.

There will always be the odd situation which is unavoidable, such is life.

Commuting is a bitch though. I used to do the same, in the saddle everyday of the year, whatever the weather for almost ten years.

I hate all motorways and dual carriageways.....too straight and full of eejits :/

Fog
 
There was an article not long back where a rider was killed at night on the motorway, I think he was riding an early blade with twin round headlights. According to the driver he checked his mirror and saw a distant car, pulled into the lane straight into the biker who was then run over by other vechiles as he lay on the floor. Obviously very very dead.

I've got twin round lamps on my NC30 and I only ever ride with one at night because I can see how it could happen.

Defensive riding can only do so much becuase you'll always get a numpty who hasn't even bothered looking, it happens so fast its just down to your reactions and seeing what is going to happen. Obviously the OP is on the ball when it comes to avoiding the crazy cagers!

Ive done this more than once on the motorway back from blackpool in the dark ( no motorway lights ). You check the mirror and it does appear to be a car way back when in fact its a bike up close. In the rain with poorer visibility you could easily make the same mistake as this driver did.
 
There will always be the odd situation which is unavoidable, such is life.

Commuting is a bitch though. I used to do the same, in the saddle everyday of the year, whatever the weather for almost ten years.

I hate all motorways and dual carriageways.....too straight and full of eejits :/

Fog

There's only one upside to commuting on the bike, and that's how much quicker it is..

downsides:

Edging towards bannable speeds every day due to complacence

The bike getting heartbreakingly dirty

Square tyres!

The feeling that the clock is ticking down to 'the big one' (shunt)

Kitting up before and after work
 
There's only one upside to commuting on the bike, and that's how much quicker it is..

downsides:

Edging towards bannable speeds every day due to complacence

The bike getting heartbreakingly dirty

Square tyres!

The feeling that the clock is ticking down to 'the big one' (shunt)

Kitting up before and after work

I can relate to every single one of those above.

Commute for me currently at this time of year takes around 40 mins in the car.

Once the weather gets better and the winds drop a bit, I will be back comutting on the bike and I've done the same route in @8 mins in the summer on dry clear roads on the RSV.

So roll on the summer!!!! :D
 
I will get a car sooner or later, but I'm not getting a car just because people are too ****ing stupid to look around them when they're in control of over a ton of motorised death.

Be thankful that truckers & their 44tons of "Motorised death" don't decide to pick on you also! :eek:;)
 
Be thankful that truckers & their 44tons of "Motorised death" don't decide to pick on you also! :eek:;)

I bet women car drivers try pick on you too though:p

Its just when you squash them the News papers blame trucks for it =/

Its what happens here.

Car slams head on into truck and people die.

Next days news and people crying "Trucks are Dangerous on the roads and all truck drivers are high on drugs and caffeine to stay awake"

People are dumb:rolleyes:
 
I have a theory.

You know at night when you see a car coming it usually looks like there are far away because the two headlights look like one...

Perhaps people see one light on a bike and think it is actually further away than what they think it is? And obviously the bike is smaller than the car.

This is true. I always thought ******** to this until i nearly hit a bike the other night (i say bike, I mean moped) as it seriously looked like a car in the distance. :( Luckily i did notice and managed to take evasive action but that couldve ended so wrong (i was going around a car that decided to pull over not that close to the edge of the road, in a 30mph and the bike was coming the other way.....60mph head on collision!)

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