Lost: Season 4 [UK spoilers likely]

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This was one of those episodes that makes a lot of people go "ah, right, so my theory is completely wrong then....", which is great! un-predictability and "OMG I MUST SEE THE NEXT EPISODE NOW!" endings are what make Lost great!
 
Great stuff. I have been trying to find out what that professor person has been in aswell. Came to me yesterday. He played Upham, (Jeremy Davies) in Saving Private Ryan. I like him. Good actor and seems to have his own style too.
 
As far as I remember Desmond was still in the real world in 2000 so would know the dialing codes had changed.
 
Droolinggimp said:
Great stuff. I have been trying to find out what that professor person has been in aswell. Came to me yesterday. He played Upham, (Jeremy Davies) in Saving Private Ryan. I like him. Good actor and seems to have his own style too.
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Ye took me a while to recognise what he is from, think he's a good actor aswell.
 
And the guy strapped to the bed on the boat is Fisher Stevens, who played Ben in 80s awesomeness Short Circuit, and the greatest film of its era, Short Circuit 2.
 
Ok, I don't know if any theories like this have already been posted but I thought I'd just throw this out there as we've just been debating it in the office. What do you think? Aplogies if it's already been said.

The island is actually in 1994 and surrounded by some kind of space/time anomoly...perhaps an experiment by the Dharma Institute. The 'button' was to do with the electromagnetic field which somehow controlled this anomoly.
The realtime is 2004 (when the flight took place).
When desmond detonated the magnetic shield thingy, it ruptured the space-time continuem and crashed the plane - transporting it back to 1994 on the island.
Also, I seem to remember that in the future, they say the plane is underwater so maybe the island doesn't exist in the future as its underwater which is why no one can find it?
 
sist_si said:
Ok, I don't know if any theories like this have already been posted but I thought I'd just throw this out there as we've just been debating it in the office. What do you think? Aplogies if it's already been said.

The island is actually in 1994 and surrounded by some kind of space/time anomoly...perhaps an experiment by the Dharma Institute. The 'button' was to do with the electromagnetic field which somehow controlled this anomoly.
The realtime is 2004 (when the flight took place).
When desmond detonated the magnetic shield thingy, it ruptured the space-time continuem and crashed the plane - transporting it back to 1994 on the island.
Also, I seem to remember that in the future, they say the plane is underwater so maybe the island doesn't exist in the future as its underwater which is why no one can find it?
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I like it. Unfortunately there are many many questions regarding the island that still need clearing up....

Oceanic 6?
Monster?
Polar bears everywhere?
Shark with Dharma logo?
The others and why they don't age?
The four toes on the statue?
The Submarine that takes them to the island and why that wasn't affected?
Why the mother's of the babies die?
Who Ben really is?
etc

:D
 
So how did the crew from the boat get to the island if no-one can find it? Also, Penny knows about the island... ooer. Her dad is in on it and that log he bought will come into its own... just see if it doesn't! :p
 
Booner! said:
I like it. Unfortunately there are many many questions regarding the island that still need clearing up....

Oceanic 6?
Monster?
Polar bears everywhere?
Shark with Dharma logo?
The others and why they don't age?
The four toes on the statue?
The Submarine that takes them to the island and why that wasn't affected?
Why the mother's of the babies die?
Who Ben really is?
etc

:D
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Sorry - I didn't just pluck 1994 out of the air either....I think they actually referred to 1996 in the ep didn't they?
 
Mat said:
So how did the crew from the boat get to the island?
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Ok, well we think the storm they passed through on those set coordinates (to find the island as it isn't there in the future remember :p) is the result of the detonation and the 'rift' in the space time continuum.
 
sist_si said:
Ok, well we think the storm they passed through on those set coordinates (to find the island as it isn't there in the future remember :p) is the result of the detonation and the 'rift' in the space time continuum.
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Maybe, it just seems as though your theory that the plane is underwater in the future yet on the island in the past suggests that the people in the future found the plane and not the island yet the people from the boat went to the same coordinates and found the island... o_0
 
Mat said:
So how did the crew from the boat get to the island?
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I am thinking that they went through the gap or wormhole for this time warp. Much like in space where it is bent and not even light can escape, maybe this goes to another dimension - hence why the statue has 4 toes?

Ben brought that blonde bird to the island via a submarine, maybe they followed the same path in the helicopter (same bearing on return too!)
 
Mat said:
Maybe, it just seems as though your theory that the plane is underwater in the future yet on the island in the past suggests that the people in the future found the plane and not the island yet the people from the boat went to the same coordinates and found the island... o_0
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If I was drunk, that would confuse the hell out of me :p

My theory is that the numbers that are entered into the computer to discharge the electromagnetic pulse, is something to do with the constant that Daniel mentioned to Desmond. Also if you look at Daniels notes you can see the numbers.

Now when these numbers were entered, the constant reset itself meaning the world would carry on because everyone's consciousness mind would remain in the current time frame. However because these numbered were not entered and the hatch "blew up", the side affects are starting to show because this constant cannot be reset. Hence the reason why Desmond and Minkowski minds are jumping back in time. Now over time more people will feel the side affects meaning that they will die, which will lead to the end of humanity, which is why the Valenzetti Equation predicts the end of humanity.
 
hamesy said:
If I was drunk, that would confuse the hell out of me :p

My theory is that the numbers that are entered into the computer to discharge the electromagnetic pulse, is something to do with the constant that Daniel mentioned to Desmond. Also if you look at Daniels notes you can see the numbers.

Now when these numbers were entered, the constant reset itself meaning the world would carry on because everyone's consciousness mind would remain in the current time frame. However because these numbered were not entered and the hatch "blew up", the side affects are starting to show because this constant cannot be reset. Hence the reason why Desmond and Minkowski minds are jumping back in time. Now over time more people will feel the side affects meaning that they will die, which will lead to the end of humanity, which is why the Valenzetti Equation predicts the end of humanity.
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I like this theory lots... much like pandora's box then? Human's cannot resist tempation for knowledge (Locke) and so opening the hatch pretty much opened up a whole bag of worms and will lead to the Earth's destruction.

I believe that the team sent from the boat are there to save the world and restore the constant. However, you would have thought that the constant (hatch) would be better protected and have a much better plan than sticking a couple of people in there and hoping they press the buttons.
 
Booner! said:
However, you would have thought that the constant (hatch) would be better protected and have a much better plan than sticking a couple of people in there and hoping they press the buttons.
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I was thinking that too, but look how many people pressed the button without actually knowing truely what they are doing? It wasn't until Locke saw the video in The Pearl, that he stopped believing, but by that time Mr Eko started to enter the numbers.
 
I'm sorry but i just don't get it. We already had an episode about Desmond and his boat and why he went sailing etc. Strange how at that time he didn't even mention the fact that she was his constant also he turns up saying you won't hear from me for 8 years yet he was talking to her just before he went on his sailing trip in 2003 no?
 
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