Prices gone mad

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Petrol now a fiver a gallon
Gas and electricity up 15% - 20%
Mortgage repayments rocketing
Council tax up again
Another budget about to be announced
Now bread prices going through the roof - up 40% this year!!

All down to the price of wheat apparently so thats going to impact on Bacon, Pork, Chicken and eggs.

It's all getting a bit silly........in rip off britain.:mad:
 
You do realise the majority of those are down to tax (or are expensive initially because of taxes or additional taxes)
 
Without tax wouldnt petrol be about 20p a litre?

After the recent price rises, about 30-35p/litre.

The government (and eco-moaners) seem to think that simply increasing the price of petrol makes consumption go down, despite there being no practical alternative available for most people.
 
The government (and eco-moaners) seem to think that simply increasing the price of petrol makes consumption go down, despite there being no practical alternative available for most people.

Have they given any proof? Or just 'it's true, honest'.
 
Another budget about to be announced

I know, it's terrible isn't it. We had one last year too!
:rolleyes:

The government (and eco-moaners) seem to think that simply increasing the price of petrol makes consumption go down, despite there being no practical alternative available for most people.

Bus, train, walk?

If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.
 
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If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.

And if the service was half decent and didnt cost the earth every time I wanted to go on a short trip, more people would use it.

Hell it now costs me £10 to go on a 40 minute train journey, it used to cost me around £6-7 about 4 years ago, and the service definetely hasnt got any better.
 
The government (and eco-moaners) seem to think that simply increasing the price of petrol makes consumption go down, despite there being no practical alternative available for most people.

Car drivers seem to be the "Enemy" and must be punished by increasing taxes and penalties. A report on the BBC said that fuel may hit £1.50 in places by the end of the year, despite the fact that it is fairly cheap and there is no viable alternative!

If it does get close to £1.50 I will seriously consider selling th car and getting the wife (who uses it the most) a good road bike and appropriate clothes or a electric scooter for shorter journeys and fly/take the train everywhere else.

Can't moan too much about wheat prices and mortgage because that is a global issue.
 
If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.


In theory yes it would, how reliable is public transport? how safe has it been? how competitive are the pricings? A lot of people who drive require the mobility to work, drop kids off, shopping, etc

The govt know that fuel is inelastic but still tax it because they can make mass amounts of money from it.

If they were serious they would simply have all cars cost at least £5-10,000 rendering thousands if not millions of cars useless resulting in them using public transport. Of course that would only work if they bothered to make the transport efficient.
 
I know, it's terrible isn't it. We had one last year too!
:rolleyes:

Bus, train, walk?

If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.

Let's do a quick rundown of my work journey. It's about 10 miles, it takes around 10 minutes by car down the dual carriageway. The bus takes an hour. I work 12 hour days. Can you see why the bus is not practical?

How about shopping? Last time I caught a bus into town with my fiancee, it cost us nearly £5.00. I can drive and park for less, and have the convience of being able to drop stuff in the car boot and carry on.

Long distance travelling? Well I suppose the train is ok if you don't mind fighting through London and being late, and have access to some form of transport at the other end, but if you don't, the public transport networks tend to be rubbish if you're anywhere other than London...

What incentive or reason am I being offered to leave the car at home? I would actually like to be able to leave the car at home sometimes, but it's simply not a realistic, practical or economically sensible option.
 
I use Public transport everyday, i could have had a car two years ago but at my age its just not worth it.

Yea i would love to drive, its a really good thing to have but damn is it getting expensive.

Luckily here in Manc we have a Tram system and its very good (cheap, student :D) too!

edit: It costs an adult £5.00 from Radcliffe-Market Street in Manchester, it costs me (as a student) around £1.80 :D

Student forever plx.
 
Bus, train, walk?

If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.

Yeah, fine if you live and work in a city, or large town. What percentage of the UK does though? Would probably take me about 4 bus changes, and 1.5 hours to get to work using public transport. 20 minutes in the car.

Scrap public transport, give me the savings back in my taxes. Why should I subsidise someone else getting to work?
 
Bus, train, walk?

If more people used public transport it'd be cheaper and there'd be a better service.

Loads of people use the buses on Oxford road, here, but it doesn't stop them being ****, cramped and annoying as hell to ride on.

More people just means that they cram a full 50 people on to a bus, I mean wtf, when i read the sign on a single deck coach it said seats 20-30 something while having standing room for 40+ :eek:

Having ridden on a bus with well over 60-70 people on it (which is just insane in its self) I'd hate to see what would happen if one had a serious crash while that full :(
 
Loads of people use the buses on Oxford road, here, but it doesn't stop them being ****, cramped and annoying as hell to ride on.

More people just means that they cram a full 50 people on to a bus, I mean wtf, when i read the sign on a single deck coach it said seats 20-30 something while having standing room for 40+ :eek:

Having ridden on a bus with well over 60-70 people on it (which is just insane in its self) I'd hate to see what would happen if one had a serious crash while that full :(

Oxford Road is getting sorted out mate :)

New bus-tram electric thing is going to take over.

Oh and the whole pathways will be lined with tree's.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1039339_car_ban_on_green_route

:)
 
Just to put some of this into perspective, I'm currently in Taiwan. It cost me $200 to get a taxi from the airport to my hotel. That's a whole £3.50 or there abouts. It costs $12 for FULL fare on the bus and there's been no problems getting one that's frequent. It also cost me $10, that's right, $10 to travel via boat to a little island. So today, I've spent $24 for the bus, and $20 for the boat. Thats a total of 4 journeys for less than a pound. England clearly has issues with taxing everyone too much for petrol, which is in effect what makes everything else so much more expensive!
 
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