Prices gone mad
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those who think we all should use public transport can go to hell.
If i want to drive, i'll drive! I pay my road tax, insurance, and i pay for my own petrol so who are you doo-gooders to tell me i should use public transport!
Im sick of all this eco-carp and global warming. Every mofoa nd his dog is an expert on it all of a sudden. You can all go to hell cos i dont care!
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If i want to drive, i'll drive! I pay my road tax, insurance, and i pay for my own petrol so who are you doo-gooders to tell me i should use public transport!
Im sick of all this eco-carp and global warming. Every mofoa nd his dog is an expert on it all of a sudden. You can all go to hell cos i dont care!
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just to reiterate the point
And it's still ****, so the argument doesn't really stand.
Some are very cheap though...
Have a look at this and see for yourselves how much tax we all pay on fuel.
Tax rate on diesel is 145% its getting serious.
http://www.abd.org.uk/fuel_tax_calculator.htm
Tax rate on diesel is 145% its getting serious.
http://www.abd.org.uk/fuel_tax_calculator.htm
please consider using public transport ^_^
+1!
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Rah rah rah, absolutely disgusting, send them all back.
Excellent summation of the situation. Government ****** and cries about getting more people onto a privatised public transport system over which it has little control. In the meantime, taxing motorists who have no choice is a great cash cow.
If I have to hear the word "green" one more time in relation to politics, I'm gonna go and kick an environmentalist in the nuts
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My buses and the trains I've been in are always very busy. More people couldn;t use public transport as theres not enough room. Also the cost of public transport is way to high in a lot of places for it to be viable.
http://www.abd.org.uk/fuel_tax_calculator.htm
well i do around 24000 miles a year at ave of 23mpg
Total Tax Per Year 3202.22 pounds
Total Tax Per Month 266.85 pounds
Total Tax Per Week 61.58 pounds
Equivalent Additional Income Tax 12.81%
well i do around 24000 miles a year at ave of 23mpg
Total Tax Per Year 3202.22 pounds
Total Tax Per Month 266.85 pounds
Total Tax Per Week 61.58 pounds
Equivalent Additional Income Tax 12.81%
Indeed. The trains from Fife in to Edinburgh every morning are just awful. You see a packed platform of people waiting to get on and around the corner comes a joke in the form of a 2 carriage train ("sorry everyone, the rear two carriages got failed before we set off so we really did want to bring you a 4 carriage train...honest..."). 45 minutes standing up squashed together in a hot oppresive atmosphere (who decides the temperature inside those things?) is a wonderful way to start the day.
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a good few others said:
If it were worth the investment, ie if people were actually going to use it, there could be a complete overhall of public transfer strategy where pricing, reliability & quality of service are all addressed. I'm not advocating the replecement of cars all together, just their substitution with an alternative where you can.
Many people can't use alternative means to get to work so they drive, I've no problem with that. Some people could train/bus/cycle/walk to work but they don't. Yet they still complain that petrol pricing is punitive & tax is too expensive. Going to Sainsbury's is easier in the car but going into town to get the papers and a new shirt, you could do that on the bus or walk it if you're close enough.
Dolph said:
photoshop said:
Those are the two main problems. Cars are very convenient but we should make an effort to use and rely on them less. And some people just plain old don't care.
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Um no, why would i pay extortionate amounts for a 3rd world standard bus/train service that gets you there late and means you have to sit next to some sweaty chav that doesnt wash, playing his music loudly?
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Exactly. Other countries success proves that it can work. It's a defeatist, nimby, obstinate attitude in this country that is stopping it even having a chance.
If we still had a local rail network it'd be very much different.
Um no, why would i pay extortionate amounts for a 3rd world standard bus/train service that gets you there late and means you have to sit next to some sweaty chav that doesnt wash, playing his music loudly
You missed the point of my post that you quoted entirely there, didn't you.
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I think it will in the long term. Remember that the high price of fuel is due to oil being over $100 a barrel and the fuel escalator tax system which the conservatives introduced.
Long term we'll see ever more fuel-economical cars being introduced and most importantly, people actually buying them. Current levels of fuel consumption are not good for anyone.
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no cos its down to public transport operators to make it appealing in the first place, why should we use it in the vain hope that prices will eventually come down, if the service did get better they would use this as an excuse to put prices even higher, you don't seem to understand how a business works. It isn't British Rail anymore!
But at the moment, the government seems to be doing nothing about it and slapping extortionate prices on motoring. It feels like the government knows that the public will pay, so they insist on bleeding them dry. Why bother to provide an alternative at all, when there's so much money to be had from high motoring prices?