Iiyama E2201W

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Looking to make the rather daunting leap from CRT to TFT and the e2201w has caught my eye. behardware give it a decent writeup, for the gaming side of things at least.

So does anyone have any experience with this monitor? Any recurrent problems or issues I should be aware of? Are there better 22" monitors out there? Thanks for reading.
 
have a look at the samsung 'pebble' 2232 for about the same price, also, though overclockers don't stock it (afaik), the HP w2207h, i've just got one and it looks fantastic, great clarity, colour and sharpness, and looks really good off too :D
 
Badass hows the review coming along ?

Being an FPS gamer, this seems like the ultimate fps monitor for me, but just waiting to see how you review it.
 
Hi...

I got an E2201W-B1 for Christmas... :)

Its awesome!! Dont really on my review as Badass will do a much better one... however in the mean time, YOU WILL LOVE IT!

I'm dead chuffed!

I was very similar to you in the respect that I loved my CRT and took an age before going to TFT... you needn't worry, it's the best move you will make. I went to a 19" Viewsonic VX912B (4:3) first and have loved it for the last 3 years, but now this is here you wont beleive how good it is.

I only use my PC for gaming and browsing (&porn)... in that order! The Gaming side is perfect, no ghosting at all, no problems at all with the viewing angles... anywhere "infront" of the screen is great. The games feel sooo much nicer with the extra areas on the screen... I have found myself re-playing all my old games just to see them in all their glory.

Desktop is mental... It makes browsing sooo much nicer as I can have two sides of A4 side by side and write on one/read the other... its great!

Finally... I feel really happy with the res as I can now have a gfx card that lasts more than one game release... something not possible with 1920x1200 res of the 24's!

Make the leap... I promise you it will be the best 200 smackeroo's you've spent in a while :)

(imo you should have GREAT input devices for your PC coz that's what you actually interact with and they are what make the experiance a good one. You've got a good mouse & Keyboard... now treat you eyes and get a great screen!)
 
I would be interested in hearing more views of this monitor from people who have them. I've email Iiyama UK sales regarding a few questions I had about the new dynamic contrast version of this monitor (E2201W-2) and they replied saying that it does do 1:1 pixel mapping and also has zero input lag.

Can someone please confirm whether the E2201W they have does 1:1 pixel mapping, as the E2202WSV that Baddass tested doesn't.

Cheers.
 
roadie said:
I would be interested in hearing more views of this monitor from people who have them. I've email Iiyama UK sales regarding a few questions I had about the new dynamic contrast version of this monitor (E2201W-2) and they replied saying that it does do 1:1 pixel mapping and also has zero input lag.

Can someone please confirm whether the E2201W they have does 1:1 pixel mapping, as the E2202WSV that Baddass tested doesn't.

Cheers.
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I'd love to know that too because the E2201W-B1 (i.e. the one OCUK stock) does not have 1:1 pixel mapping (as confirmed in numerous reviews).

Wait a second....Iiyama refer to the E2201W-B1 as the E2201W-1 on their website. I wonder if this E2201W-2 model you speak of is the same as the E2201W-B2.

If so, I suggest you look here:

http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=50&mo1=269&p1=2511&ma2=50&mo2=322&p2=3065&ph=12

I don't know how trustworthy that review/comparison is because the E2201W-B2 they have has horrific input lag that is not consistent with other recent TN monitors. The one on the left is the legendary zero input lag E2201W-B1 (or as Iiyama supposedly refer to it, the E2201W-1).

Confused, yeah me too. :confused::confused::confused:

EDIT: With respect to the model name discrepancy, I presume the letter 'B' is a reference to the colour of the monitor housing (i.e. black).

UPDATE: Having searched far and wide, I can find nothing to support the claim that the E2201W-2 has 1:1 pixel mapping however I did notice that on some of their more expensive models (e.g GraphicPro LCDs etc) they have a zoom feature and I saw this quoted elsewhere on a non-english language site as "zoom (full screen, 1 : 1 max. preservation of the original ratio of dimensions)". Anyway, my point is this, Iiyama don't list the E2201W-2 as having a zoom feature on its spec sheet (or anything remotely similar that would point to 1:1 pixel mapping being present). I suppose the only way to find out is to email them again to confirm and failing that, to go out and buy one.
 
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Ok, I just had a rather lengthy discussion with a nice very man from Iiyama (whose name I've forgotten). He assured me that the E2201W-2 does have zero input lag (much like it's predecessor the E2201W-1). Furthermore, there is a review (by a group somehow affiliated with the online gaming enthusiast review site whose name I can't mention here but if you must know, it starts with an 'H' and rhymes with plexus) which can backup the claim using the same (chronometer + CRT) method that is employed by all other monitor review sites (including digitalversus). He is going to send me the link via email so I will post it (and his email reply) here shortly. Regarding the model designation, the monitors are only available in black, hence the inclusion of the letter 'B' in the model name.

With respect to the unfavourable review of the E2201W-2 (courtesy of the folks at digitalversus) I was told this was unusual and most likely the result of a discrepancy in testing rather than a defect with the monitor. I will have to wait for the other review to confirm this. He also mentioned something about the backlight bleed but again, I'll have to wait for the link to the other review to confirm his claim.

Finally, on the subject of pixel mapping, there was some confusion over this because Iiyama's interpretation of the term is not the same as mine (or indeed, as I suspect, the majority of OcUK users). After I explained the context of what I meant, I was informed that neither of the models have this feature and thus always scale to full screen. To be perfectly honest, I expected as much.

Having said that though, I read somewhere that the 24 inch version does have a sort of pseudo 1:1 pixel mapping feature which only inserts lateral black bars (i.e. there are no black bars at the top and bottom edges and so the image is stretched slightly) but this feature was disabled when using the overdrive (i.e. for gaming).

Anyway, I will post again when I have more info.
 
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Ok, I've paraphrased his reply below (with the name ommitted for obvious reasons). My comments are shown below in red.

Firstly 1:1 pixel mapping makes the use of Native Resolutions on LCDs
sound more complicated that it actually is. All LCDs have a fixed
resolution or number of pixels. On most 22" displays, including our
PLE2201W this 'Native Resolution' is 1680 x 1050. 1:1 Pixel Mapping is
basically, when you get your Computer Graphics Card to output a matched
resolution of said 1680 x 1050. Analogue outputs are capable of 1:1
pixel mapping, but I must agree with the conversion involved errors can
occur and this is why, if accuracy is essential you should use the
Digital Output from your card to the Digital input of our display.
Running the resolution at the 'native' 1680 x 1050 will guarantee an
accurate image. As I explained in my earlier post
above, this is not what I meant by pixel mapping but once I explained
the context I was informed that pixel mapping was
not supported.

With regards to 'zero input lag', no manufacturer will guarantee zero
motion blur on an LCD. I believe this relates more to the time it takes
for the monitor to receive a signal and the image to appear on screen.
I feel that we cannot make a true statement against this as it would
need a series of signal analysers synchronised with a image recognition
device and its something we haven’t actually done that I am aware of..
However, below is a review where I think best efforts have been made to
do this test by an independent reviewer.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/689-2/22-inch-lcd-monitors-the-3rd-wave.html

Oh no, I was afraid this would happen. He sent me the
link to the BeHardware review which I already have but their review
doesn't indicate whether it's the E2201W-1 or the revised E2201W-2.
However, the nice man at Iiyama implied it was the latter
but I've always believed it was the former. Baddass, what do you
reckon?

It would be interesting to see the review where iiyama's product
was criticised for not achieving the zero input lag.
Email reply sent. Let's see what they say.

UPDATE: I've emailed the folks at BeHardware to find out which specific model they reviewed.
 
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