/nuke from orbit and kick in the ovaries roflol
what's you're point? Trying to tell me that I'm a goth?
Goth Clothes Prompted Killing
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/nuke from orbit and kick in the ovaries roflol
what's you're point? Trying to tell me that I'm a goth?
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That's the Cradle of Filth 'Vestal Masturbation' t-shirt, I have the exact same one.
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was the accused looking like this at the time?
http://jcr.chu.cam.ac.uk/ents/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/chav2.jpg
I think goths look a bit wierd, but thats it. Theres no need to give them any abuse. I hope the attackers die in prison....
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Nah... wrong end of the stick, me' ol' china./nuke from orbit and kick in the ovaries roflol
what's you're point? Trying to tell me that I'm a goth?
I was merely expressing my surprise at the frankly ridiculous notion that you seem to hold regarding the tolerance levels of this nation's populace, wrapped up in a play on a familiar acronym; the curtness of which you may like to interpret as a measure of my disdain for your generalisation that goths are all self-pitying nihilists.
That's all.
Surely it is more appropriate to pour disdain on such an individual for being a fan of Cradle of Filth than for wearing such a T-shirt?
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'Sisters' were good back in the days of small venues, but I was more of a 'Fields' person myself.
Heretic. 'Sisters' kick 'Fields' butts anytime
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Pardon?
Perhaps if you propounded your postulation more succinctly, the participants in this discussion may be more inclined to afford it due consideration - otherwise, they're liable to think you're being a nob.
As for the original story, it is indeed sad that people can be attacked because of the clothes they wear. i used to get srange looks back in my 'Goth' days but, thankfully, never experienced any violence.
you just know rightly that the ones giving the kicking were chav scumbags!
i know a lot of goths, infact the girl i'm with atm is, we get abuse quite often like (i'm not a goth by the way, but i don't have a shaved head so they don't like that lol). it's bloody annoying the fact you can't go anywhere in my town, load of backwards people like, sort of people giving the country a bad image.
anyway, that's a total disgrace and i hope those scumbags spend the rest of their lives in prison.
i know a lot of goths, infact the girl i'm with atm is, we get abuse quite often like (i'm not a goth by the way, but i don't have a shaved head so they don't like that lol). it's bloody annoying the fact you can't go anywhere in my town, load of backwards people like, sort of people giving the country a bad image.
anyway, that's a total disgrace and i hope those scumbags spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Total shame. As someone who is male, wears makeup and has long har - some of these comments make me laugh. Most "goths" or whatever you want to call them dress the way they do because they feel comfortable looking like that. I prefer the way I look dressed the way I do over short hair, normal clothes etc. That's just the way it is.
My point is simple: Some people are complete onanists.
You get them now, you got them ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago...fifty years ago we had teddy boys with switchblades.
I presume that you are familiar with the term pleb (or plebeian) both in a historical and colloquial context. I use it in the latter sense of the term; to describe individuals who are ignorant of reality. Specifically, those who are ignorant of the fact that we have had such people living amongst us since the dawn of time. It's nothing to do with the prevailing political wind of the time, nothing to do with the media, and certainly nothing to do with the prevelance of sixteen year old girls in tight jeans with kohl eyes...
Sorry...My mind wandered a bit.
It is ALL to do with the simple fact that some people are just ****s.
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Yeah, probably. But then again they'd be hastily judging me on one aspect, and I don't think I need to point out the unfortunate irony there.
I agree, of course, and have to admit that I was similarly lucky back in the day - lots of ridicule and hassle, but no violence. Some of my friends weren't so fortunate.
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I might be misreading again but I think Stan was just saying that you could have made your point with more brevity. Sesquipedalian tendencies are all well and good for amusement but they don't aid coherence.
Or to use an acronym: KISS - Keep It Short & Simple or the less polite Keep It Simple Stupid.
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I think what England needs is a good old fashion vigilanty riot which targets and attack the chavs who do stuff like attack people based on what they wear.
They hvae to learn somewhere that society wont tolerate such actions.
They hvae to learn somewhere that society wont tolerate such actions.
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You know, England at present could very much benefit from some vigilante action within communities. Coming from Northern Ireland I've seen first hand "paramilitary policing", and while I in no way condone these people at all, this aspect is about the only decent thing the "situation" there ever brought about. The little scummers knew there was a line, and if they crossed it then "Uncle Jim" was just as likely to break your kneecap than anyone else.
No discrimination within communities, clearly defined lines of acceptable behaviour, and they knew it. I've noticed in England though that people would rather hide behind their twitching curtains and boarded windows and moan, than get out there and do something; and those who are willing find no backup among their neighbours.
I've been wracking my brain recently trying to piece it all together -- and it's obvious that this has been a slowly escalating problem over the past 10 years, with a sudden boom in the past maybe 3 or 4. Sure, people will say that things like this have always happened - and they have - but not on this scale and certainly not with the utter lack of remorse or respect that we all have to face daily. We routinely see 16 year olds laughing in the dock while facing a murder charge, giving the defiant finger to paparazzi as they smoke a spliff outside court during break and generally acting like they honestly couldn't give a **** about anything or anyone (including themselves). So what is it? What's happened? Can it be fixed? I think not.
No discrimination within communities, clearly defined lines of acceptable behaviour, and they knew it. I've noticed in England though that people would rather hide behind their twitching curtains and boarded windows and moan, than get out there and do something; and those who are willing find no backup among their neighbours.
I've been wracking my brain recently trying to piece it all together -- and it's obvious that this has been a slowly escalating problem over the past 10 years, with a sudden boom in the past maybe 3 or 4. Sure, people will say that things like this have always happened - and they have - but not on this scale and certainly not with the utter lack of remorse or respect that we all have to face daily. We routinely see 16 year olds laughing in the dock while facing a murder charge, giving the defiant finger to paparazzi as they smoke a spliff outside court during break and generally acting like they honestly couldn't give a **** about anything or anyone (including themselves). So what is it? What's happened? Can it be fixed? I think not.
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Just clothes? I've always considered it more of a lifestyle/mentality than anything. Wearing black and makeup isn't what makes a person a 'goth'. Any idiot can do that. It's more a psychological thing than a wardrobe thing.
Of course the average chav could never understand this.
If I wore a burberry cap would that make me a chav, regardless of how I think and act?
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Does anyone else think that these people would have done this to anyone and that the people it happened to were just dressed differently? i mean, considering the people involved sure it made them a bigger target but i wouldn't say they were looking for "goths" to beat up (edit: just that they were the first acceptable victim).
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How, by wearing clothes?
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sorry, i forgot about all the skaters,goths and punks hanging about in parks killing people.
edit: yes by wearing clothes, for the very same reason why people in school make fun of fat people, people who wear glasses, people who have red hair, big noses, big ears etc, you're different to them so you're more of a target.
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