Pointless, ridiculous songs which should be banned to Room 101

kitten_caboodle · 13 Mar 2008 at 22:55

agreed that James Blunt should die in the face. Cool or not, he's the only person I know of who is his own rhyming slang and his whining voice makes me get inexplicably angry!

Banzai_Joe · 14 Mar 2008 at 08:18

Yep, Mika is a wiener! My gf puts his cd in my car as a joke, so when i turn it on i get that tw@ blurting out drivvel.

That Music Generator song is the cheapestr crappiest piece of music, doesn't even rhyme.
Don't like this current spate of bands 'deliberately' singing in their native dialect, like Arctic Monkeys mancunian accent and the like. If everyone did that, bands like UB40 would have been *****d a long time ago (for better or worse). And no one would be buying the Manics or Stereophonics cos they'd sound terrible.

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 08:22

Gezzard said:
Anything, no, everything by Mark Ronson. Well except Oooh-wee which wasn't too bad.

Don't get me strated on Mark Ronson. :mad:

Best male at the brits?

My £$%^ He doesn't even write his own songs.

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 08:26

RSH said:
The Kooks

Posh boys wanting to sing in Scouse accents. :mad:

One of the most fake bands of the past 5 yrs.

Hardly authentic.

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 08:40

Mark Ronson?

He's a producer.

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 08:54

Gilly said:
Mark Ronson?

He's a producer.

Yes I know...

Exactly my point!

converse_uprise · 14 Mar 2008 at 09:06

easyrider said:
Posh boys wanting to sing in Scouse accents.

One of the most fake bands of the past 5 yrs.

Hardly authentic.

Scouse?

The Dread Pirate · 14 Mar 2008 at 09:26

Woody__ said:
Korn are a nu metal band. They're trying to tout themselves as some kind of weird "alt metal/industrial metal" band, but they're just not.

Blink were rubbish anyway. The genres did exist before Blink. I would like to take this moment to mention that both the Offspring and Green Day were HUGE before Blink. NOFX played a big part on influencing those bands. Amongst others.

I automatically refer all pop punk to The Undertones. You can see where it was coming from.

I have admitted the genres existed but were they well known or tainting Metal/Rock/Punk festivals before Blink 182 showed up? NO!

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 09:28

converse_uprise said:
Scouse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouse

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 09:38

easyrider said:
Yes I know...

Exactly my point!

So not writing his 'own songs' is neither here nor there, as he's a producer not an artist...

For the record I've never heard the Kooks trying to sound scouse in their songs. Who would want to sound scouse??

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 10:03

Gilly said:
So not writing his 'own songs' is neither here nor there, as he's a producer not an artist...

Yes he's a producer..so why does he get best Male at the Brits?

For the record I've never heard the Kooks trying to sound scouse in their songs. Who would want to sound scouse??

The Kooks!

Listen to them again.

Their accents are so far removed from what they actually sound like they sound remarkably scouse.

Its well documented on BBC3 Most annoying pop moments.

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 10:36

easyrider said:
Yes he's a producer..so why does he get best Male at the Brits?

The BRIT Awards, often simply called The BRITs, are the British Phonographic Industry's annual pop music awards. The name was originally a shortened form of British or Britannia, but has subsequently become a "backronym" for British Record Industry Trust.

A producer is part of the music industry. Why should he not be eligible?

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 10:42

Gilly said:
A producer is part of the music industry. Why should he not be eligible?

You have best male at the Oscars and this does not go to guy that did the

best sound design.They have a seperate award for that.

If Ronson should get an award then they should have a best producer

category.

Not artist category.As he is not an Artist he is a producer.

And have a best male Artist category seperate.

Gilly said:
as he's a producer not an artist...

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 10:52

Oscar categories:

* Actor in a Leading Role
* Actor in a Supporting Role
* Actress in a Leading Role
* Actress in a Supporting Role
* Animated Feature Film
* Art Direction
* Cinematography
* Costume Design
* Directing
* Documentary Feature
* Documentary Short Subject
* Film Editing
* Writing (Original Screenplay)
* Writing (Adapted Screenplay)
* Visual Effects
* Sound Editing
* Sound
* Short Film - Live Action
* Short Film - Animated
* Best Picture
* Music (Song)
* Music (Score)
* Makeup
* Foreign Language Film

Where does that list have 'best male'?

It seems you're floundering now, you have nothing to back your rant up with. Perhaps you don't like his music, perhaps you don't like the fact that he doesn't sing on his tracks... none of that matters. he's well worth the award whether you believe it or not, and is perfectly eligible for it being British, male and working in the record industry!

Cosimo · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:25

Gilly said:
Oscar categories:

Where does that list have 'best male'?

He could be talking about this one:

BRITS

British Male Solo Artist
British Female Solo Artist
British Group
British Album
British Breakthrough Act
British Live Act
British Single
International Male Solo Artist
International Female Solo Artist
International Group
International Album
Critics Choice
Outstanding Contribution To Music:

easyrider · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:30

Gilly said:
Oscar categories:

Where does that list have 'best male'?

It seems you're floundering now, you have nothing to back your rant up with. Perhaps you don't like his music, perhaps you don't like the fact that he doesn't sing on his tracks... none of that matters. he's well worth the award whether you believe it or not, and is perfectly eligible for it being British, male and working in the record industry!

Best Actor = Male

Best producer = Ronson
Best Artist = Someone Who Composes their own material.Or at least performs it.

"Perhaps you don't like his music?" Fact is: Ronson doesn't have any of his
own music..he produces and arranges other Artist music

"perhaps you don't like the fact that he doesn't sing on his tracks?" There not his tracks.They are arrangements of other Artist's tracks.He does not write them.

A producer is not an Artist he is a producer.

Micky Most,for example,Started out as an artist,then he became a producer.

Although he started out as a rock-and-roll performer, finding success with a string of hits in South Africa,Mickie Most made his mark in music as one of the most successful British producers of the 1960s and 1970s.

As we can see.There is a clear distinction between producer and artist.

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:39

simulatorman said:
He could be talking about this one:

BRITS

British Male Solo Artist
British Female Solo Artist
British Group
British Album
British Breakthrough Act
British Live Act
British Single
International Male Solo Artist
International Female Solo Artist
International Group
International Album
Critics Choice
Outstanding Contribution To Music:

He was talking about the Oscars, so I listed the Oscar categories.

Those categories for the BRITs are out of date. Here is the list of winners for 2008:

2008

Main article: 2008 BRIT Awards

Hosts: The Osbournes[1]
Fearne Cotton (Backstage)
Venue: Earls Court
Broadcaster: ITV[2]

Winners

Best Live Act : Take That
Critics Choice : Adele
Breakthrough Artist : Mika
International Male : Kanye West
Britist Male : Mark Ronson
International Female : Kylie
British Female : Kate Nash
International Group : Foo Fighters
International Album : Foo Fighters-Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace
British Album : Arctic Monkeys-Favourite Worst Nightmare
British Group : Arctic Monkeys
Best British Single : Take That-Shine
Outstanding Contribution To Music : Paul McCartney

As you can see, it is British Male that Ronson won, not British Artist. If it was artist then easyrider'd have a point (though his track Valerie was released purely under his name anyway IIRC) but it isn't. It is British Male, which since he is intrinsically involved in the music industry he is perfectly eligible to win

Gilly · 14 Mar 2008 at 11:44

easyrider said:
Best Actor = Male

Except that isn't best male, that is best male actor.

easyrider said:
Best producer = Ronson

Yep, he'd probably have won that if it'd been a category.

easyrider said:
Best Artist = Someone Who Composes their own material.Or at least performs it.

OK, I'll let that go, seeing as you corrected yourself - I wonder how many BRITs winners there have been that didn't write their own material.

easyrider said:
"Perhaps you don't like his music?" Fact is: Ronson doesn't have any of his
own music..he produces and arranges other Artist music

That is the job of a producer. He probably wouldn't have any issue with you saying so - though Valerie was his own track released under his name only.

easyrider said:
"perhaps you don't like the fact that he doesn't sing on his tracks?" There not his tracks.They are arrangements of other Artist's tracks.He does not write them.

So? Plenty of singers/bands don't write their own music/lyrics.

easyrider said:
A producer is not an Artist he is a producer.

Which is why he won Best Male not Best Male Artist.

easyrider said:
Micky Most,for example,Started out as an artist,then he became a producer.

Although he started out as a rock-and-roll performer, finding success with a string of hits in South Africa,Mickie Most made his mark in music as one of the most successful British producers of the 1960s and 1970s.

Don't see what that has to do with anything, but OK.

easyrider said:
As we can see.There is a clear distinction between producer and artist.

Absolutely there is, but that has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand.

RetiredGreyFox · 14 Mar 2008 at 12:22

Gilly & Easyrider :
Who is this?

etc etc

I'm getting confused and by some of the comments on You Tube.
Over the last few months I've seen somebody introduce Mark Ronson and then some dude playing a guitar and singing.
Is that Mark Ronson or not?