AMD's next gen graphics card to be a stonker?

[Perfect_Chaos]

who thinks so?

its about time the war turned around, not only will the customer benefit from lower prices then they will also benefit from great performance.

Graphics cards have been stuck in a dead end for the past 2 years, will it end up being 3? or will AMD come out with a stonker being the 4870?

who knows, i just hope they do by end of summer

Golden age for AMD?

 

[Gerard]

Hopefully they come out with something to kick nvidia square in the nuts. Nvidia have obviously had a good run with the 8800 series now we need the pendulem to swing in the ati direction for a while.

 

[titaniumx3]

who thinks so?

its about time the war turned around, not only will the customer benefit from lower prices then they will also benefit from great performance.

Graphics cards have been stuck in a dead end for the past 2 years, will it end up being 3? or will AMD come out with a stonker being the 4870?

who knows, i just hope they do by end of summer

Golden age for AMD?

From the looks of it the the HD4000 series will still be using the same architecture as the R600, just some more shaders.\

Doesn't sound too good imho.

 

[helmutcheese]

Seems it wont be, again they play the number games, same as old 48 pipes V Nvidias 16 pipes from days gone by (when they did not have 48 real pipes).


" AMD's RV770 to have 800 stream processors? "


Read it all here : http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/14344


1 guy who seems to have a clue left this comment :


" I think it's disingenuous of AMD to say "scalar" processors; they are vector processors. Why does it matter? Because each group of 5 "scalar" processors can only process one vector at a time, even if that vector doesn't have as many as five dimensions.

So in reality, the RV670 has 64 vector processors, and the G80 has 128 scalar processors. Since those scalar processors also work at 1.35GHz instead of 775MHz, the RV670 would need the vectors to average about 3.5 dimensions to have equal resources (not counting memory).

I think having 160 vector processors would be impressive in and of itself, without needing to call them "800 scalar processors." Having said that, I seriously doubt they can do that with only about 30% more die space on the same process node. It would be much more plausible for the R700 to have 160 vector processors spread over two RV770 chips. "

 

[titaniumx3]

They really need to make something more practical and robust, with more "accessible" graphics horsepower as opposed to the R600 architecture which seems to only shine in very specific and rare circumstances (if any at all).

 

[Methanoid]

HD4xxx series seems to be a logical evolution rather than a revolution, but will still offer significant speed bumps. If you look at the fillrates and bandwidth provided (that is on Wikipedia now) you'll be able to make some basic deductions/guesstimates:

Taking a Radeon HD3850 as base (performance =1)

• 3200/3450/3470 ==== 0.2-0.3
• 4450/3650 ======== 0.5
• 3850 ============ 1.0
• 4650/4670 ======== 1.8-2.2
• 4850/4870 ======== 2.5-3.1

Since the 4650 is the mainstream model (3650 current position, currently £50 or so) then you would see the mainstream model performance at almost twice the performance of todays HD3850 yet costing less. I would hazard a guess at around £80 on launch but dropping.

That makes a 4650 a good buy in my book. Add to that its much lower power consumption than NVidia models I'd be happy with ATI. IMHO needs something like PowerPlay and needs it now.

Personally I'm holding out till the 4xxx launch. Nvidia has the performance crown but its power hungry and that means more aggressive cooling. HD4650 should be a great mainstream card - I'll be buying one for each of my machines if it meets those expectations.

 

[Dicehunter]

i just want a card by ati to come out that when i put it in power on it totally blows me away with the power, not something that you can see a bit more shine in certain games etc.. but something that is awesome, but we wont get that for a long time they just upgrade there cards a lil bit every few years and say '' ooh a break through'' i say its bull they have got amazingly powerful cards already but they wont release them because we wont need to upgrade for quite some time there fore they wont be making money, basically i just want a card to take me on an interstellar journey

 

[tbh]

Since the 4650 is the mainstream model (3650 current position, currently £50 or so) then you would see the mainstream model performance at almost twice the performance of todays HD3850 yet costing less. I would hazard a guess at around £80 on launch but dropping.

Sounds too good to be true, although I would love it if it turned out to be accurate.

 

[Lightnix]

Wouldn't be the first time a mainstream card has walked all over the previous generation's top end (6800 GT vs. 7600 GT anyone).

 

[keyser]

All I know is that my gut says maybe

 

[Andeh]

who thinks so?

Golden age for AMD?

I highly doubt it...

 

[Methanoid]

Wouldn't be the first time a mainstream card has walked all over the previous generation's top end (6800 GT vs. 7600 GT anyone).

Current machine sitting with a 7600GT in now... I want something I can play games on that doesnt consume the output of a small nuclear power station.

BTW, Dicehunter, have you ever had a VGA card that gave you that wet dream you seem to be seeking? No card ever does that which you seek - it's the game that might do that...